Lunch at the Vale

[PinkyB]

I should add that I've never actually been in The Vale, mainly because any place that advertises itself as a "DJ Bar" is obvious shorthand for "full of trendy twats" and "won't have Strongbow on tap and will instead try to peddle you some ridculous imported designed by marketing gonks brand of cider in a massive bottle and (horrors!) with ice, for almost twice as much as a normal pint would have cost you."

[PinkyB]

Interesting. I typed tw * ts and the forum automatically converted it into @#$%&

Does it do the same with "wankers"?

[PinkyB]

Yes.

[lenk]

This thread makes me feel crushed and devalued.

[ratty]

PinkyB Wrote:

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> I should add that I've never actually been in The

> Vale, mainly because any place that advertises

> itself as a "DJ Bar" is obvious shorthand for

> "full of trendy @#$%&" and "won't have Strongbow

> on tap and will instead try to peddle you some

> ridculous imported designed by marketing gonks

> brand of cider in a massive bottle and (horrors!)

> with ice, for almost twice as much as a normal

> pint would have cost you."

HA HA - you could not be further from the truth!!!!

Also, I have a sneaky feeling that the OP may be a she not a he!

[Jeremy]

Can anyone else recommend some great local establishments, which don't leave you feeling crushed or devalued? It's an attribute which is becoming icnresingly rare these days, I find.

[curlykaren]

this thread made it worthwhile getting out of bed today...I just wish I had been a member of the forum before Snorky became new, improved and non-offensive, must have been as funny as fuck x

[Keef]

Ha ha, Jeremy, Osbourne Stewartgate was a classic!

I've always stuck to my NTV feelings, but popped in to watch a footy match a couple of months ago, and have to sat it was a nice place to watch the footy.

Just a shame there isn't much else going for it, and my coat got nicked ther, and they told the police "nothing gets stolen from my bar". So helpful.

[matthew123]

I guess the Vale is old East Dulwich - a throw back to when landlords / owners had to show a harder line to customers.

I only visit the place when I want to watch the Football and have not encountered any issues personally. Beer seems cheaper than on Lordship Lane. I guess the big problem is it's location as it's a bit isolated from modern day East Dulwich on LL.

[jaybee82]

Haha top banter! The fact that he only has two postings and busted himself with the other one is priceless! Good effort all round.

[ratty]

The thing is, the Vale is getting better and for those of us that live up this side, it can be v pleasant for the occasional jar. The garden is fantastic and the kiddies bit (my boy played in there for an hour on Saturday) is great.

[Fuschia]

jaybee82 Wrote:

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> Haha top banter! The fact that he only has two

> postings and busted himself with the other one is

> priceless! Good effort all round.

The OP was so obviously a fake I couldn't resist checking the posting history...

[Fuschia]

ratty Wrote:

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> The thing is, the Vale is getting better and for

> those of us that live up this side, it can be v

> pleasant for the occasional jar. The garden is

> fantastic and the kiddies bit (my boy played in

> there for an hour on Saturday) is great.

Yes, I have been meaning to go and have a look. If they sold themselves as a child friendly place to eat and offered a semi-healthy child's menu and ran some weekend promotion.. they'd do themselves much more of a favour than this sort of thing which just makes them look desperate. What's the play area like? Is it still Ok to park in trhe vicinity?

[Siduhe]

Astroturfing for your own business is one thing - yes it's "illegal" but lots of people do it on this forum and others like it with varying degrees of success. As others have said, it's pretty easy to spot even if you can't prove it and you can form your own view about whether that's a business you want to deal with.

What strikes me as really unnecessary is to slag off the Bishop and the EDT in that way. I haven't worked in a bar or pub for years (and things have probably changed) but I would guess it's a small enough world that it will almost certainly come round to bite the Vale on the backside. Or maybe they are far enough away that they don't ever need to borrow change and/or pipes/equipment/glasses, discuss security and crime in the area, share information about troublesome customers etc...

[KalamityKel]

Having already expressed my views on this establishment on another thread I won't repeat myself here. I agree with Sidue there was/is no need to do any bad mouthing of local competition and really makes one wonder of the attitude of staff/owners of said establishment. Am I encouraged to venture into this place with all this talk of new ideas and improvements when open "slagging" off is done? hmmm lets see...

[lenk]

I am open to bribes if The Vale needs another login?

If it's a goer I'll remove this post to cover our tracks. ;-)

Just get the copy over to me by Friday each week plus a cheque, and I'll do the rest : )

Additional jibes directed at rival establishements (eg The other day I saw a man sobbing into his flat pint outside The Gowlett, which looked to be on fire), will be extra.

[HAL9000]

Fuschia Wrote:

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> Misinterpreted, you just posted in another thread

> as if you own or work at the Vale..

This looks too easy.

Misinterpreted's post could be a rival's attempt to discredit the vale.

Is this a clever example of reverse advertising?

[matthew123]

Hmmmm. I suspect that the other posting by misinterpreted that was made 4 minutes after this suspected self-congratulatory endorsement was actually intended as a Private Message to Viper, as it's addressed to an individual, i.e. Hi Viper. The poster, misinterpreted, being new to the forum, may have then gone into a flap after realising their mistake and without realising they could edit the unintended posting has since gone under cover as no future posting have been made by misinterpreted.

Of course you could be right in that it was a deliberate attempt by a competitor to undermine the Vale - on the otherhand it could have been a carefully calculated risk by misinterpreted that drumming up any kind of publicity in the cynical east dulwich universe is a good PR exercise.

[Mikecg]

HAL9000 Wrote:

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> Fuschia Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Misinterpreted, you just posted in another

> thread

> > as if you own or work at the Vale..

>

> This looks too easy.

>

> Misinterpreted's post could be a rival's attempt

> to discredit the vale.

>

> Is this a clever example of reverse advertising?

No, as we have all discovered this is nothing like a clever attempt at reverse advertising. How embarrassing, it's a bit like saying hello everyone I'm as bright as a 1 amp fuse!.

[ibilly99]

Lets be fair maybe we have misinterpreted his message ?

[Mikecg]

Even if they have ill thought out promotional morality, I still like it in there, it isn't half bad but they are not doing themselves any favours.

[PinkyB]

Well, Ratty if it's not a bar for trendy tw*ts with overpriced bottled cider, then I would say its marketing campaign is definitely way off the mark 'cos that's the impression I got the numerous times I walked past and didn't go in. Of course, now I've got the impression its stuff are numpties who are so desperate to plug their bar they'll do almost anything, no matter how underhand. And funnily enough, I still don't want to go inside.

[Mikecg]

Be fair it isn't that bad a pub, but you have to ask yourself, why did he do it?. It's ridonkulous. Sack your promoter and employ someone with a brain, you can't do it on the cheap unless you have experience.

[ibilly99]

I think misinterpreted used to go by the name of chunky - again he had only 2 post before dissapearing into the internet ether.

Chunky

[Mikecg]

Unless as was stated earlier The Vale has zero knowledge of the forum and it is a conspiracy theorists dream come true, hay ibilly99 should this be merged with the conspiracy theories thread. LOL!!!!.

A doppleganger by the name of misinterpreted was employed by another establishment on LL to discredit the competition.

You never know????????.