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Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> blah Wrote:

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> -----

> > no crime is the same as another. When we begin

> to

> > view each as a result of a seies of events,

> > influences and pressures, then we can make

> > progress. there is no one size its all

> solution,

> > so your question is an irrelevance & a

> diversion

>

>

> Did you read my post or did you just choose to

> ignore & respond. The question is neither

> irrelevant nor is it a diversion. Is is just as

> relevant as anything you have posted, perhaps you

> don't have an answer in which case don' t bother

> posting an irrelevant response




incorrect

*Bob* Wrote:

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> A ten year-old who finds a gun in father's study

> and shoots his little sister deliberately.

>

> A woman who's been beaten by her husband every

> weekend for fifteen years.

>

> Someone who's profoundly mentally-ill slips

> through the care net and is released.

>

> Euthanasia.

>

> Someone kills your child, so you find out where

> they live and kill them.

>

>

> They're all murder. All the same? Hang them all?

> Nonsense.



The law will see all of these very differently and also depends on the jurisdiction you?re in but the argument that someone who has killed another individual is a dangerous liability and should be removed from society permanently still stands.

blah Wrote:

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> dont you have some vigilante duties to be getting

> on with ?



Go to the botom of class, your sweeping generalisations have no place in this class room. E-

In the UK any adult convicted of murder will be sentenced to life imprisonment unless they are the subject of a Mental Health Act disposal. The court will fix a minimum term before they can be considered for parole, which is fixed by reference (broadly) to the need for punishment, public protection and rehabilitation. Sometimes it's pretty short, sometimes it's very long, but it doesn't actually determine when people are released - that's for the parole board. After release there is a lifetime licence i.e. you can be recalled at any time, and not just for re-offending, but alos for looking risky. Re-offending rates for murder are low.


It's not a perfect system, and obviously won't satisfy someone who is completely wedded to capital punishment, but it's not exactly airy-fairy liberal either - the UK has successfully argued that a 'whole life' tariff is consistent with ECHR and we can expect that the most dangerous/dreadful murderers will never be released.

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> blah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > dont you have some vigilante duties to be

> getting

> > on with ?

>

>

> Go to the botom of class, your sweeping

> generalisations have no place in this class room.

> E-



The only class I am in is Class War


*boom tish*


etc

blah Wrote:

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> Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > blah Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > dont you have some vigilante duties to be

> > getting

> > > on with ?

> >

> >

> > Go to the botom of class, your sweeping

> > generalisations have no place in this class

> room.

> > E-

>

>

> The only class I am in is Class War

>

> *boom tish*

>

> etc


I do not wish to know that kindly leave the stage.

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Ben Kinsella was not involved in Gangs at all.

>

> 3 Murderers did not want to "lose face" so

> murdered him to keep their street cred...



Tony, as I'm sure you'll be aware, when we were kids if you had an argument with someone if we progressed to violence it was a straight forward punch up and when it was all over is was forgotten. These people, apart from being so far beneath contempt it beggars belief, are nothing but cowards, pure and simple. They hunt in packs and use knives cos they can't fight.

"Hunt In Packs"....I'll pass no comment but simply say, read all the 35 London Teenage Murder accounts/reports since 2008--thats 27 in 2008 and 8 in 2009 and read how many involve The Police searching for "Groups"/ "Gangs"/ whatever terminology is used in each case, individually.


The majority involve more than one "suspect" for the murder and more than one person "running away from the scene of the crime" but. of course, many are not caught so we will never establish until every case gets to Court how many involve more than one potential murder.


In the case of Ben Kinsella all the usual "missed chances" are there. One of the "3" was accused of stabbing someone, in a Gang of 4, only 10 days earlier, but he was the only one of the "4" who was not apprehended, with devastating effects for The Kinsella Family.


Naturally, all 3 were "depressingly familiar names" The Police Spokesmam said..

The one thing you can guarantee is they will not do an honest days work one day in their lives once they leave prison, possible around the age of 35. They also will also re offend, probably murder again.


Some one, some where, is waiting to be murdered by these vile creatures in the future....


Sounds like they should have locked up their families while they were at it. No better than the animals that they bred.

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