gout sufferers - any tips?

[bignumber5]

Sorry to hear of your experiences cc, they sound troubling. But you were given a 60% chance of medication working and when it didn't you're using that as an arguement against all conventional western medicine? Very sorry to hear that too.

Any RCT's from reputable centres on the use of a specfic alternative therapy for symptom relief or decreased incidence of acute episode frequency in gout will, i'm sure, be given full attention should they be presented. Otherwise, I think we did this one pretty much to death on the homeopathy thread, so I'll not hijack this thread to rehash the same ground. Let's stick to gout.

[Asset]

Nobody's arguing against the conventional medicine BN5, I know you are a medical type and poss feel a little defensive.

I was just saying don't dismiss the benfits of a dietary change and the usefulness of herbs as hocus pocus.

PS - I think your analogy of sofas versus cows to sit on is not particularly good but I do know what you were trying to get across - did you mean the pun on vacca?

[charliecharlie]

[quote=But you were given a 60% chance of medication working and when it didn't you're using that as an arguement against all conventional western medicine? Very sorry to hear that too.

]

please mote!!!!

in ref to use of conventional medication

I said [quote name=not always the best]

which clearly states my view...

conventional medication is sometime the best option BUT NOT ALWAYS!!!

of course I'm not daft enough to use one personal experience, related to one health issue, as a basis to dismiss the value of all prescribed drugs in relation to all cases... that of course would be a completely ludicrous premis for an argument!

When deciding to go on to a prescribed drug for the rest of your life, it is important to be aware of the side effect and possible long term implications... here are a few of the side effect Benjaminty might want to weigh up before committing to taking the drug for 'life'

"Allopurinol:

Diarrhea; nausea.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Allopurinol:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); blood in urine or painful urination; dark urine; fever, chills, or sore throat; irritation of the eyes; joint pain; loss of appetite; red, swollen, blistered, or peeling skin; stomach pain; unexplained weight loss; unusual bruising or bleeding; unusual muscle pain or weakness; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

This is not a complete list of all side effects that may occur. If you have questions about side effects, contact your health care provider. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088. You may also report side effects at http://www.fda.gov/medwatch ."

[Keef]

With gout, there are undoubtedly non conventional ways of dealing with it. My point was simply that if you can't be arsed, and you enjoy your current diet, then drugs are the way forward.

[charliecharlie]

I quite agree keef, the choice is down to the individual... my rather stiff post was a reply to bignumber5's sweeping assumption that I am against uses of conventional medicine, which I am absolutely not....

[daizie]

Lol Keef, im with you, choose drugs everytime .

[matthew123]

BBC website, Fact of the Day: [Prime Minister] "William Pitt the Younger (1759-1806) was advised by his doctors to cure his gout by drinking a bottle of port a day. He died from cirrhosis of the liver, aged 46."

[Tony.London Suburbs]

I thought the drinking of Port was what gave those traditional sufferers of gout i.e. Sailors, gout in the first place!

I assume that Pitt The Y. had fallen out with his Doctors...:))...thats the worst advice since Ally Ferguson was advised by person(s) unknown to buy Micky Owen..( he could NOT have possibly made that decision)....

[matthew123]

I think old wise owl was counting on desperate Rafa to dive in at 11th hour to avoid indignity of Owen joining rivals United and hence screw up Liverpool's own plans by having the little wretch on board.. but instead it is Fergie left with Bupa man on his ship which could now be rocked at any time by the bull headed Owen.

Was it too much Port being drunk after this cunning plan backfired to explain why Fergie's face was as red as a beetroot on Sunday at Wimbledon.. >:D<

[SteveT]

It sounds as if an extra pint of water per day may help the gout sufferers with dark urine.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Naproxen 250 g.

As I said, on the rare occassions I "OTT" on Orange/Coke/Dr.Pepper in the Summer the swelling on my big toe disappearrs in 1 hour or so....