Keef Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Indeed. And brum, views on here may be cynical, but I don't think anyone has anything other than sympathy for the daughter. She has done nothing wrong, and she's lost her dad. I think the issue is more with the way her grief was, arguably, exploited. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I don't feel exploitation is necessarily the right description for what happened. I can see a parallel here with Princess Di's funeral service.... massive out-pouring of emotion, contentious 'sermons', music performed by great artists with revised lyrics... off-spring and other family members under the spotlight... we're not so different here, really. Add to this the obligatory US evangelical/showbiz element and that's what we saw last night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiesofa Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 slightly off topic but I think the media is ignoring the number of suicides by distraught fans. There was a tiny tiny article in the london lite (couldn't read it i was peering over someones shoulder so only saw the title). Found this but it seems to have been sort of ignored and I personally feel it's far more tragic than Michael dying.http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Michael-Jackson-Reports-Of-Fans-Committing-Suicide-Emerge-As-Rev-Jesse-Jackson-Makes-Online-Plea/Article/200906415323308?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15323308_Michael_Jackson:_Reports_Of_Fans_Committing_Suicide_Emerge_As_Rev_Jesse_Jackson_Makes_Online_Plea Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I think most his more obsessive fans were pretty weird anyway. But topping yourself because you're depressed by his death is very sad. They must have been slightly disturbed in the first place. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophiesofa Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I totaly agree that they must have been a bit 'not quite right' (npt that anyone is right/normal) i just think it's sad (especially for the families of the people who killed themselves) that it's kind of been swept under the carpet whereas the complete opposite can be said for the funeral of jacko. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuraCaught Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 brum Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Despite the cynical views expressed here, I> actually felt utter sympathy for his daughter who> expressed her grief at losing her dad.I caught one minute of the whole vile performance, the last minute. I too feel sorry for her, very strange behaviour that a family who wanted "privacy" would then put a microphone to the poor child. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I watched some of it ( I quite liked Stevie Wonders' conribution). Was there any in-put from his parents? Obviously that are elderly now and the relationship with his father has been much talked about. Am I the only one who thinks perhaps his mother had a part to play in the person he bacame?Seeing the grieving family on stage together just seemed somehow odd. A bit too 'stage managed', perhaps that's the real problem with the person lying in the silver cask. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andystar Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 My fave jacko story involves me telling a huge jacko fan from work who believed that jacko was innocent because he would never ever abuse kids, that that he should stick to sh*ggin chimps because they dont talk. I was just fed up with her going on and on and on abt his innocence, which was based on the fact that he could never do it because he loves children. she didnt speak to me for weeks- which was great. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetuniaButtons Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I just wish Mr Buttons would stop singing the "woh woh WOOOOOOOHohohohoho" bit from blimming Earth Song.If he carries on I shall be burning his Fray Bentos pie Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andystar Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 PetuniaButtons Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I just wish Mr Buttons would stop singing the "woh> woh WOOOOOOOHohohohoho" bit from blimming Earth> Song.> > If he carries on I shall be burning his Fray> Bentos pielol, i dont know whats worse, hearing him sing that or eating a fray bentos pie.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 > PetuniaButtons Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > I just wish Mr Buttons would stop singing the> "woh> > woh WOOOOOOOHohohohoho" bit from blimming Earth> > Song.> > > > If he carries on I shall be burning his Fray> > Bentos pie> > ...perhaps he just makes that noise because those juicy steak chunks are burning the roof of his mouth... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladida Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'm with Mr Lush, the geezer was a paedo who did a couple of good tunes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daizie Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 How do you know ? He was cleared, surely you can call off the witch hunt now Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 As part of his trial he revealed that he lay on the bed with boys having got them drunk, and taught them to masturbate.Apparently that's not paedophilia in legal terms, but it is in mine.QED there is no witch hunt, but the guy's a kid fiddler. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If he'd been tried over here he'd have been locked up a long long time ago. You don't pay $20 million in hush money if you're not guilty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> As part of his trial he revealed that he lay on> the bed with boys having got them drunk, and> taught them to masturbate.Please Hugenot - remember the man did 'Thriller' (27 years ago). Surely we can turn a blind eye to these paedophilic bits and bobs? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Daizie? Any thoughts?Grown man sits at the bottom of your son's bed, plies him with booze, encourages him to masturbate..? Ok with that?Eee-heeee! I think not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 *Bob* Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Please Hugenot - remember the man did 'Thriller'> (27 years ago). Surely that's enough to condemn him to hell if the paedophilia thing isn?t. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daizie Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 'As part of his trial he revealed that he lay on the bed with boys having got them drunk, and taught them to masturbate'. Really? I never knew that . Does a paedophile have to actually touch a child to be convicted? What about online child porn ? So, if he was cleared, and they were right, he must have had the emotional maturity of a child which would indicate a personality disorder . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Jeezus wept Daizie. Surely you're not that stupid. For fcuk's sake read this:-The People's Paedophile Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Wacko fans believe what they want to believe. They see the gentle Peter Pan who never grew-up and only feels happy in the company of innocence.I see the fcuked-up grown man who has a stash of porn and gets a buzz out of teaching kids how to w*nk. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 After getting them pissed first. If that isn't predatory paedophile behaviour I don't know what is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 We've lost Minnie Ripperton, Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross, Barry White, James Brown and Ray Charles. One question, were where Quincy Jones, Diana Ross, Gladys Knight and Aretha Franklin? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daizie Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Thanks Jah Lush . 'They see the gentle Peter Pan who never grew-up and only feels happy in the company of innocence. I see the fcuked-up grown man who has a stash of porn and gets a buzz out of teaching kids how to w*nk.' Bob, Yes, your right , so should he have been convicted for this ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Deffo. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6950-media-ignores-michael-jackson-memorial/page/2/#findComment-222931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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