Smokeless zone

[Nigello]

Southwark is a smokeless zone, so you can't burn fuel or have bonfires that produce dark smoke. Some people don't know this; others do and ignore it! Plesae don't burn fuel that makes smoke: it's unpleasant for most people and dangerous for some.

[jacks09]

pure ignorance here, but, can you burn smokeless coal on an open fire?

[DulwichFox]

And as I understand it , it is permissible to use some kindling and fire lighters to get the smokeless fuel going.

DulwichFox

[Calsug]

Was surprised to see Co-Op selling non-smokeless coal for fires the other day - not sure they should be allowed to do that to be honest.

[Penguin68]

No that's fine - ED residents can buy this to take to their second homes in the country...

[*Bob*]

You can burn wood in a smokeless zone if you have 'an approved appliance' (which most woodburning stoves are now). It's not against the law.

It should be against the law to sell crappy bags of unseasoned firewood though, as often supplied by your favourite DIY shop, supermarket, garage forecourt.

[FACEBOOK]

What about summer barbeques and bonfire night?

[Nigello]

http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200075/pollution/1360/air_pollution/5

[DulwichFox]

It probably wont be long before BBQ's are banned..

Think of the money Southwark Council could make in Fines with people flaunting the law.

DulwichFox

[Judge]

You?re allowed garden bonfires in smoke control areas:

https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules

[uncleglen]

I have a Southwark leaflet from some years ago about bonfires and it says 1 bonfire per month at dusk for 1 hour. Also I think I read somewhere that a Yule log is allowed to be burned over the xmas period (?). Anyway- it stands to reason and common sense that unless we want to go back to the old smogs (and it will be 2x as bad since loads of what were single houses are now 2 or more flats) we are considerate.

[EDOldie]

I don't think there's anything wrong with a log or coal fire in your house once every now and then. Makes the room smell lovely and it sounds and looks grate.

Houses simply aren't heated by solid fuel these days and the regulations, which were much needed at the time, are perhaps a little out of date? I think there should be some sort of exemption to allow us to use our fireplaces occasionally. Mind you I'm worried yule log off after reading this.

[Sue]

EDOldie Wrote:

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> I don't think there's anything wrong with a log or

> coal fire in your house once every now and then.

> Makes the room smell lovely and it sounds and

> looks grate.

>

Both those fire logs you can buy (not wood logs obviously) and smokeless fuel make my room smell disgusting :(

I once tried to toast bread over a smokeless fuel fire, and that was disgusting too :(

Bring back the fifties!! Toast and dripping!!

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

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> EDOldie Wrote:

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> > I don't think there's anything wrong with a log

> or

> > coal fire in your house once every now and

> then.

> > Makes the room smell lovely and it sounds and

> > looks grate.

> >

>

>

> Both those fire logs you can buy (not wood logs

> obviously) and smokeless fuel make my room smell

> disgusting :(

>

> I once tried to toast bread over a smokeless fuel

> fire, and that was disgusting too :(

>

Bring back the fifties!! Toast and dripping!!

That's the one.. My mum gave me that to fatten me up.. Didn't work.. :)

Foxy

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > EDOldie Wrote:

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> > > I don't think there's anything wrong with a

> log

> > or

> > > coal fire in your house once every now and

> > then.

> > > Makes the room smell lovely and it sounds and

> > > looks grate.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Both those fire logs you can buy (not wood logs

> > obviously) and smokeless fuel make my room

> smell

> > disgusting :(

> >

> > I once tried to toast bread over a smokeless

> fuel

> > fire, and that was disgusting too :(

> >

> Bring back the fifties!! Toast and dripping!!

>

> That's the one.. My mum gave me that to fatten me

> up.. Didn't work.. :)

>

:))

[aerie]

EDOldie - I saw what you did there and smiled !

[phobic3000]

I don't have a problem with it. I smashed up a small bike storage shed last year and burnt the wood in the chimenea! It was fun, smashing and burning is the way to go...

As long as you're not taking the mick and burning fires outside all the time then I can't see the problem.

[Nigello]

Maybe if you (or your family members) have emphysema or asthma or another lung problem you would have a different view?

[phobic3000]

Only if my neighbours were burning fires everyday and using wet wood. That would be disrespectful. If people want to burn fires occasionally then that's fine by me. I like a fire.

[DulwichFox]

I don't mind a fire.. and would not report a fire unless it was likely to get out of control..

Having said that if it's illegal then it's illegal and doesn't matter how frequently people have a burn up.

DulwichFox

[Sue]

aerie Wrote:

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> EDOldie - I saw what you did there and smiled !

I thought it was a lucky spelling mistake :)

[phobic3000]

I saw this the other day and thought it was quite nice...

OAK logs will warm you well,

If they're old and dry.

LARCH logs of pine wood smell,

But the sparks will fly.

BEECH logs for Christmas time,

YEW logs heat well.

SCOTCH logs it is a crime,

For anyone to sell.

BIRCH logs will burn too fast,

CHESTNUT scarce at all

HAWTHORN logs are good to last,

If you cut them in the fall

HOLLY logs will burn like wax

You should burn them green

ELM logs like smouldering flax

No flame to be seen

PEAR logs and APPLE logs,

they will scent your room.

CHERRY logs across the dogs,

Smell like flowers in bloom

But ASH logs, all smooth and grey,

burn them green or old;

Buy up all that come your way,

They're worth their weight in gold.

[kjs1]

messageRe: Smokeless zone new

Posted by Nigello Today, 05:10PM

Maybe if you (or your family members) have emphysema or asthma or another lung problem you would have a different view?

I do, and don't have an issue with the occasional fire. Car fumes are a much bigger problem.