What does East Dulwich lack?

[womanofdulwich]

a ?1 shop.

[aalisam]

How about a car club........ There are lot of people that could benefit from this service. PM for further info.

[fuzzyboots]

Cinema. Theatre. M&S that sells knickers... SAFER/MORE ROAD CROSSINGS?!

[Jah Lush]

Keef Wrote:

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> Doubt it would lst if I'm honest, but I'd love a

> guitar shop, selling strings, picks, leads, and

> stuff, as well as guitars obviously. Oh, and a

> good collection of song books.

>

> Oh, and a bar on Lordship Lane, that isn't fecking

> horrific at the weekends!!!!

Keef - we sing from the same hymn sheet. All the above plus a record shop and a cinema where the cop shop is.

[SimonM]

An antequarian/second hand bookshop, to complement Chener...

[Jah Lush]

SimonM Wrote:

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> An antequarian/second hand bookshop, to complement

> Chener...

I'd go along with that too.

[Medley]

jacki Wrote:

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> A yummy italian !

What do you think Si Mangia on Forest Hill Road is for?!

Otherwise, ED needs:

the Tube;

at least two decent pubs;

an arthouse cinema (Peckham Plex is great for the mainstream stuff).

[Brendan]

Medley Wrote:

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> at least two decent pubs;

eh? Surely if there is one thing it has is enough and a diverse enough range of pubs to cater for pretty much all tastes.

[Medley]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Medley Wrote:

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> > at least two decent pubs;

>

> eh? Surely if there is one thing it has is enough

> and a diverse enough range of pubs to cater for

> pretty much all tastes.

Brendan you have got to be joking. When I say decent I don't mean extant, I mean flipping superb. I don't mean a Clockhouse, I mean a Bree Louise (Euston), a Hollybush (Hampstead), a Royal Oak (Borough), a Whitelocks (admittedly in Leeds). I mean superb. ED has a miserable tatty trail of wannabes and outright failures. Hence the need.

[thebestnameshavegone]

Yeah, real ales are a bit underserved around here.

Gowlett has a good selection, but I don't know about the atmosphere.

Bree Louise is fantastic, as is The Lamb on Lamb's Conduit St.

[*Bob*]

I don't like 'superb pubs'.

They are inevitably full of people whose purpose in life is to seek-out 'superb pubs' and drone on about original etched glass, cask conditioned ales and other superb pubs which are also superb, actually.

I'd rather go to the Gowlett. With my mates.

[Medley]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I don't like 'superb pubs'.

>

> They are inevitably full of people whose purpose

> in life is to seek-out 'superb pubs' and drone on

> about original etched glass, cask conditioned ales

> and other superb pubs which are also superb,

> actually.

>

> I'd rather go to the Gowlett. With my mates.

How ironic then, Bob, that I have just plotted to go to the Gowlett - my first visit, I've been scouring BITE for a bit of drinking respite in ED - in a few days' time. With a mate.

My definition of superb has nothing to do with etched glass (although that would be to ignore many of Edinburgh's finest) and everything to do with no muzak, no ainless TV, very good ale and cheap, good food (it really isn't difficult to do a ham sandwich).

*Drone ends*

[*Bob*]

Good for you, Meddles.

The non-superb charms of The Gowlett await.

[Brendan]

Ah well if we?re talking Royal Oak level here then I would say that this entire city only delivers a handful of pubs of that calibre. East Dulwich doesn?t but in fairness we are only an obscure corner of South East London.

Although if you're looking for good beer, good atmosphere etc there's the Gowlett, the Herne, the Dog. I would love to say the CPt but they don't have any decent beer at the moment.

[thebestnameshavegone]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I don't like 'superb pubs'.

>

> They are inevitably full of people whose purpose

> in life is to seek-out 'superb pubs' and drone on

> about original etched glass, cask conditioned ales

> and other superb pubs which are also superb,

> actually.

>

> I'd rather go to the Gowlett. With my mates.

I like a good range of interesting beers, mabye 1-2 lagers, simple but good food, and Northern Soul on the jukebox.

Original etched glass / snob screens non-essential.

The Gowlett is nearly there, except for the posse of kids running around with plastic hammers while their parents didn't so much as bat an eyelid that greeted me last time I was in.

[Medley]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Ah well if we?re talking Royal Oak level here then

> I would say that this entire city only delivers a

> handful of pubs of that calibre. East Dulwich

> doesn?t but in fairness we are only an obscure

> corner of South East London.

This is a fair point. But if you don't aim high...

>

> Although if you're looking for good beer, good

> atmosphere etc there's the Gowlett, the Herne, the

> Dog. I would love to say the CPt but they don't

> have any decent beer at the moment.

The Herne I view with a wary eye as being borderline - it's alright, beer-wise, most of the time. Otherwise a good enough boozer.

What is this Dog of which you speak?

[thebestnameshavegone]

Medley Wrote:

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> The Herne I view with a wary eye as being

> borderline - it's alright, beer-wise, most of the

> time. Otherwise a good enough boozer.

It contains 'Wacky Warehouse' levels of children though - not everyone is a fan of such things.

[Jah Lush]

The Dog is the Crown & Greyhound in Dulwich Village. I'd put Hoopers in the mix too.

[Brendan]

Crown and Greyhound in Dulwich Village. So not really East Dulwich but I always think of it as such.

They generally have a good selection of well kept beer. Including Meantime which is a rarity around here.

It is probably too full of families and kids on the weekend for people who have the aversion. Personally I don?t mind the kids, they?re just like little drunk people.

[Laurie Eggleston]

It's the other side of Peckham, but The Montague Arms near Queen's Road station is legendary - won Camra's 'Best Boozer' last year and is well worth checking out. Try their awesome Sunday roasts too. Maybe worth starting a best local pub thread? (if there isn't one already!)

[Medley]

Ah, in which case I like the Dog but hadn't considered it 'ED'.

Laurie, NOW we're talking! I shall hotfoot it to the Montague. Is there liable to be any gang-fighting going on at any particular time, or am I doing QRP a huge disservice here? Yours, Jacqui Smith.

p.s. agreed about the Herne - definitely a weekday evening pub. Can't blame them for going for the with kids weekend market, mind.

Laurie Eggleston Wrote:

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> It's the other side of Peckham, but The Montague

> Arms near Queen's Road station is legendary - won

> Camra's 'Best Boozer' last year and is well worth

> checking out. Try their awesome Sunday roasts too.

> Maybe worth starting a best local pub thread? (if

> there isn't one already!)

[Medley]

p.s. yes, a pub thread perhaps.

let's switch to moaning about transport. I like doing that.

[Brendan]

East Dulwich definitely lacks a pub where someone has seen fit to mention steampunk in the BITE review.

[????]

I managed to get to the Herne on Saturday evening when it was kid free.. fantastic! Every other visit (and believe me there's been a lot - well apart from one in 1994 when it was very different) has been with my kids and the legion others that are there for the climbing frame. It does amaze me that anyone without kids goes there saturday or sunday lunchtime to be honest! Thoroughly enjoyed sitting in a not too crowded pub with a pint of that cornish stuff and some decent food.

...still not free of fellow forumites tho ;-)

[thebestnameshavegone]

???? Wrote:

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> I managed to get to the Herne on Saturday evening

> when it was kid free.. fantastic! Every other

> visit (and believe me there's been a lot - well

> apart from one in 1994 when it was very different)

> has been with my kids and the legion others that

> are there for the climbing frame. It does amaze me

> that anyone without kids goes there saturday or

> sunday lunchtime to be honest! Thoroughly enjoyed

> sitting in a not too crowded pub with a pint of

> that cornish stuff and some decent food.

>

> ...still not free of fellow forumites tho ;-)

The one thing I really don't get at the Herne is the 'pumping club soundtrack from 1994' they insist on cranking out on Saturday nights... really seems out of place considering the clientele!

I'd happily sort this out for them, for a fee..