Crime in Dulwich (Lounged)

[panama]

There seems to have been an increase in crime in Dulwich lately, with robberies by East Dulwich Station and on Lordship lane as well as by Red Post Hill estate, i think a lot of it is by youths passing through the area probably from Peckham and Camberwell.

It seems however that not everyone is reporting these to the police so the actual numbers are unknown.

If some scumbag wants to rob you of your belongings either resist as long as you are not harmed but if they are violent it would be best to give them what they are after, But make sure you report it too the police otherwise how else are they going to have a chance to catch the scum.

Most of these robberies are committed by youths on bikes wearing hoods i would suggest if anyone see's any one matching this description and acting suspiciously then call the police or the local SNT.

Do not be afraid to report it the police would probably welcome any info they can get, thats the main problem with society now is that people don't report things or help other people in incidents like muggings as they are afraid they would get hurt. I have got involved many a time to help people as i was raised by my parents to respect other people and stand up for what is right and denounce what is wrong and what i have noticed is that the majority of these robbers are gutless cowards who will run away if confronted, they are only brave if they are in a large gang catch them by themselves and they are pathetic little fools.

[thebestnameshavegone]

No-one from Dulwich would ever even think of committing a crime, I agree with you completely.

[sophiesofa]

I don''t think the official advice would be to "resist as long as you are not harmed". Give it up, it's just not worth it, although I don't think you can plan how you'd react to such things. I don't think ED is getting less safe, crime has peaks and troughs and it's nearing christmas, we're in recession and it's getting darker which must all be factors.

[Horsebox]

I'm torn between marking this 1/10 or getting some popcorn in and watching the thread develop.

[panama]

Thanks for your intelligent reply to the content of this thread Horsebox, its always good to get worthy feedback and constructive criticism

[Horsebox]

If your first post was serious (and I suspect that it's not) then it's based mostly

on anecdotal evidence about the rise in muggings in SE22,

committed by thugs from out of town,the claim that people aren't reporting crime anymore plus advice on how to be a vigilante.

So forgive me if I didn't take it seriously, but these things often pop up on tinternet are to be taken with a pinch of salt.

[thebestnameshavegone]

Horsebox Wrote:

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> If your first post was serious (and I suspect that

> it's not) then it's based mostly

> on anecdotal evidence about the rise in muggings

> in SE22,

> committed by thugs from out of town,the claim that

> people aren't reporting crime anymore plus advice

> on how to be a vigilante.

>

> So forgive me if I didn't take it seriously, but

> these things often pop up on tinternet are to be

> taken with a pinch of salt.

Agree completely.. Anecdote is not data, and so on.

[SteveT]

I guess most do not think giving the police any input is of use, so they don't bother but I agree with your post if you do not report it then the thieving creeps will certainly go unpunished.

It is difficult to get descriptions of the perpetrators out of the victims, and has been seen on this forum by some users as racist if you name the colour of the attacker.

If the attacker is blonde and you state that, then that is okay, but if you state they were 5 black youths it frequently creates arguments to say so.

[????]

So we are to call the police if we see any youths with hoods on bikes

*goes out to shed to look for pitchfork sharpener*

[Brendan]

Stockwell skatepark is full of youths in hooded tops on BMXs every weekend. I will call the police and have them all arrested forthwith.

Come to think of it that doesn?t sound like a bad idea at all.

[panama]

My post is serious i don't know why you would think its not, and its actually based on fact.

Please attend Police meetings, Community Council Meetings, Tra Meetings or even read a newspaper, or even speak to other agencies involved in policing.

Dulwich is still quite safe and yes there are scum here who rob other people in Dulwich but the majority of robbers come from other areas Peckham and Camberwell, it is well known and obvious.

Speak to youth in those areas and ask them where the robbers go to "tax" people it might enlighten you.

I am a firm believer in corrective justice and hate all Political Correctness rubbish which has helped to destroy the once firm values and moral spirit this country had.

Succesively weak goverments have made the UK a laughing stock when it comes to policing, and other matters, bring back capital punishment.

[sophiesofa]

To be fair though he did say ring the police if they were acting suspiciously not just because they're wearing hoodies. What evidence is there that people don't report being mugged? If I was mugged I'd certainly call the police and I think most people do/would.

[????]

lordy lordy lordy - anyone got a light for my Torch I'm ready for a lynching

[sophiesofa]

I don't think muggers commute to dulwich just to mug people. Facts please.

[thebestnameshavegone]

I often see my next-door neighbour putting a dark hoodie and running shoes on and slipping out into the night.

Usually see him running around the Rye, probably sprinting away from his latest burglary.

I'll be calling the boys in blue forthwith.

[panama]

People are not reading my posts properly call police if people are seen to be acting suspiciously, not if they are just wearing hoods.

The hood is a item of fashion but criminals use it as a tool as it hides the features obviously.

As for the comment on skateboarding-funny but totally irrelevant.

[sophiesofa]

It just sounds like wild speculation to me sorry panama.

[panama]

People do commute to Dulwich to commit robberies as it is classed as a rich area with easy pickings for dis-affected youth.

That is also why Dulwich Schoolchildren are targetted and robbed by these people, there are other factors also that i will not go into.

[sophiesofa]

Burglaries I can understand, but muggings I don't see why they would bother when they're are areas within camberwell and peckham that would be just as good for mugging someone. I'm not saying that all muggings are committed by east dulwich only residents but I think some are but I also have no facts and am also just speculating. There are bad apples everywhere not just in peckham and camberwell.

[PeckhamRose]

So "i think a lot of it is by youths passing through the area probably from Peckham and Camberwell" is a fact? No, it tells us all about you.

"It seems however that not everyone is reporting these to the police so the actual numbers are unknown".

If the numbers are unknown how can you know there's a rise?

"Most of these robberies are committed by youths on bikes wearing hoods i would suggest if anyone see's any one matching this description and acting suspiciously then call the police or the local SNT"

How do you know 'most' of the robberies are thus committed?

Please don't imagine we don't care.

But you don't write factually; you write with a large dose of attitude and bias, and we don't like that.

[huncamunca]

SteveT Wrote:

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> I guess most do not think giving the police any

> input is of use, so they don't bother but I agree

> with your post if you do not report it then the

> thieving creeps will certainly go unpunished.

>

> It is difficult to get descriptions of the

> perpetrators out of the victims, and has been seen

> on this forum by some users as racist if you name

> the colour of the attacker.

>

> If the attacker is blonde and you state that, then

> that is okay, but if you state they were 5 black

> youths it frequently creates arguments to say so.

Racism is easily tossed around this forum and its sometimes the nuclear option to kill a discussion. Sadly, it has become a 21st Century Godwin law 2.0 update in some cases - this does not maen that all threads that touch on racism are thus null and void or baseless - Guardian readers are more than willing to add the racist tag as a knee jerk, I find, but it can devalue a discussion if used too often & inappropriately.

I am more disturbed by the words that are NOT used when people make a point, than the words that are being used - the inference is subtle, but there.Outside this forum, I'm not alone in thinking this - despite not commenting earlier.

[5imon]

amusing idea: people 'commuting' to dulwich to commit crimes - perhaps reading the telegraph, with a latte on, complaining about the lateness of trains etc.

[panama]

My posts are not written with attitude and bias just fact, sorry if the truth hurts.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Oi Moos! Do ya wanna come and case panama's gaff with me?

[sophiesofa]

Ok so you are doing it to wind us all up then because you have not presented one singe fact.