East Dulwich underground station

[jack bauer]

I know that it is planned at Honour oak to connect the East london line in 2011-ish and that East dulwich was to follow suit about a year after,but I as talking to an estate agent in Foxtons and was told the idea had been scrapped !

I hope this is not the case does anyone have any ideas of what is in place.

[v_the_gelfling]

As far as i'm aware its never been going to East Dulwich? I thought its extending straight down to West Croyden via Forest Hill and Honor Oak for 2010/2011 and then a year later adding another extension from Surrey Quays to Clapham via Queens Rd Peckham and Peckham Rye?

[Sue]

I thought the proposal for a tube link at East Dulwich had been - sadly - scrapped years ago?

[*Bob*]

He was telling the truth.

But he's lying about the period features, easy parking and the spacious garden which isn't overlooked.

[Loz]

I reckon most of them lie about their age, too. They all look like they're about thirteen.

Or I'm getting old. Naaah.

[boosboss]

Wherever it goes it won't be the tube! It'll be operated by London Overground.

[Michael Palaeologus]

The ED option for London Overground was scrapped ages ago. We will benefit from the confirmed phase 2 - which goes to Clapham via Peckham and Denmark Hill. To be completed by 2012, allegedly.

[dbboy]

Please at least spell it properly its Honor Oak, NOT Honour Oak

[Loz]

Wherever it goes it won't be the tube! It'll be operated by London Overground.

I heard there was three possible options: Underground, Overground or Wombling-free...

[SCSB79]

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/East-London-Web.pdf

[EDOldie]

My understanding is that the original plan was to connect to Wimbledon via East Dulwich (and N Dulwich Tulse Hill etc etc.)But was ditched for cost reasons. My master plan is to carry on the Bakerloo line from E & C to Camberwell (as proposed many years ago) at the very least.

[helena handbasket]

dbboy Wrote:

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> Please at least spell it properly its Honor Oak,

> NOT Honour Oak

Have often wondered why........

[Huggers]

my master plan is to continue the victoria line from Brixton to Herne Hill, apparently there is a ghost tube station underneath as the line extends there to turn the trains.

[????]

Why do people want the tube so badly? Ok it's a bit more convenient but it would completley alter the character of SE22 for the worst - more transient, less community, more expensive and more bleedin' colonials from Clapham....Tube is vastly overated.

[Keef]

I can't wait for the east london line to open from Forest Hill, will make my life so much easier!

[Michael Palaeologus]

I am quite happy with the Overground being close enough to be convenient but not so close as to change the character of ED.

People who live here have to be able to navigate by bus and train timetable, requiring mental dexterity and high moral character.

[Jeremy]

???? Wrote:

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> Why do people want the tube so badly? Ok it's a

> bit more convenient but it would completley alter

> the character of SE22 for the worst - more

> transient, less community, more expensive and more

> bleedin' colonials from Clapham....Tube is vastly

> overated.

Possibly.

The train is fine most of the time, but a pain in the arse in the evenings. One train every 30 minutes is a bit shit.

[*Bob*]

Poor transport links has helped make ED what it is today: a hotbed of freelance loafers who can sit around posting on here all day long.

[Catalyst]

The 78 from Nunhead/Peckham to Shoreditch would try the patience of a saint.

Tube from New Cross Gate/Brockley to the trendy East End is a massive win for those of us that-

A. Still have a social life

B. Migrated north of ED.

[michael_FH]

If I had my way (and 5 billion pounds) the Bakerloo line would be extended along the route of the 176 to East Dulwich and Forest Hill, then above ground at Bell Green from where it could continue to Hayes or Bromley. This would provide the best solution to reducing overcrowding at London Bridge and Lewisham and provide connections from four separate national rail line and two arms of the East London Line. It would provide real underground connections for South East London across all zones. It utilises the only underground line with spare capacity as it reaches central London and the tunnel that already exists as far as Camberwell.

[Medley]

Tube at ED? Ha ha! Hilarious. I do hope this is a spoof.

What we will get is the Overground running from Shoreditch/Wapping/Rotherhithe south through Brockley, HOP, F Hill and then splitting to C P or W Croydon. That's this summer.

Then in 2012, as above, phase 2 - which is the Peckham Rye/D Hill bit.

Remains to be seen what it's like in practice, but I find it hard to imagine it will make things worse overall, although there'll be fewer trains to L Bridge.

As for extending the Victoria or Bakerloo, both have long been dreamed about but always defeated by unwillingness to tackle the south London clay to get through mainly not very rich or densely populated areas. The Northern line extension to Wimbledon in the thirties was dogged with difficulties with the clay. Bakerloo extension from Elephant to Camberwell actually started after the war, but ground to a halt - never to be resumed. P

Personally I mourn the Victoria-Moorgate loop which called at Honor Oak (as opposed to Honor Oak Park) and Lordship Lane as well as C P. Sadly that closed in, er, 1954.

http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/Crystal_Palace_line_2.html

[Captain Lugard]

Information about possible Bakerloo options.

Extending the Bakerloo line

[Huguenot]

Considering the amount of people who wanted to sue Thames Water for installing water pipes to solve some of the ED aqua-delivery issues, it comes as no surprise that the powers that be would steer clear of digging an underground line.

Even if the clay issue was resolved ED would still have the nimbys.

It's a very conservative working class enclave.

[Catalyst]

Then in 2012, as above, phase 2 - which is the Peckham Rye/D Hill bit.

Has the funding been approved for phase 2?

[James Barber]

I've attached an article on how the Spanish extend tubes lines in Madrid - cut and cover ?35M/km deep tunnelling ?55M/km including station, signalling, etc.

They can build from conception to trains running within 4 years - whole tube lines 20km long. TfL talks about 20 year planning. They nearly did a five year project extending the Docklands Light Railway into Woolwich Arsenal 2.5km ?180M. Wierdly the same distance to extend the Bakerloo line to Denmark Hill as started in 1950.