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messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by Seabag 30 December, 2019 09:49

Isnít Gales coming to Lordship Lane too?

If it is then itís a tough ask to complete with them.

I loved Brickhouse, but that has always been a sensitive site, the neighbors havenít been easy too. Plus that incident with the mother was totally blown out of proportion, and add that to rent increases and Iím not surprised at them throwing the towel in.

But best of luck to to them, Iím sure theyíll resurrect.

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Posted by fishbiscuits 30 December, 2019 10:05

Gales are OK. Certainly a big step up from a Cafe Nero, etc, but IMO their coffee and pastries are barely comparable with Brick House.

I think for me, the best options are now Boulangerie Jade in ED, and Coal Rooms or One & All in Peckham.

I do wonder if the Brick House guys would go back to their roots and become a wholesale bakery again?

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Posted by alice 30 December, 2019 10:35

Gailís have long opening hours but their bake and coffee offerings are mediocre.



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Posted by heartblock 30 December, 2019 16:05

Peckham Rye was the best bread around, but it went downhill as they baked it for less time in the last year. I ate there once, but I couldnít hear any of my friends above the nursery. I think the bread was great until they took their eye off the ball. The second lease was a mistake. In the end, amazing bread that went downhill, terrible business plan. Donít get me wrong, I would happily contribute to a community bread shop with the Brick House team being the bakers and continuing as an Ďindependentí, but with a business model that didnít depend on the buggy brigade and the one coffee thanks for the free internet during the day, it was never going to make enough money.

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Posted by Rosetta 30 December, 2019 16:35

For baked goods, I can recommend Ole and Steen. They have late opening hours, until 9 or 10 pm. The closest one is in Victoria, or Canary Wharf, depending where you are. They have a great selection of buns, muffins and cakes. They are famous for their Cinnamon Social. Thereís another one in the Haymarket and one in Wigmore Street, as well as quite a few others. Iíve also tried and liked some of their rye breads, including a carrot rye, which are moist, chewy and make good toast.



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messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by NewWave 30 December, 2019 19:27

Ole &Steen are great, good coffee and salads too-I go to the Wigmore st one on my lunch break.
I'd rather they opened on LL than Gails tbh which is terribly overpriced and actually very mediocre

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by NewWave 30 December, 2019 19:44

heartblock Wrote:
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> Peckham Rye was the best bread around, but it went
> downhill as they baked it for less time in the
> last year. I ate there once, but I couldnít hear
> any of my friends above the nursery. I think the
> bread was great until they took their eye off the
> ball. The second lease was a mistake. In the end,
> amazing bread that went downhill, terrible
> business plan. Donít get me wrong, I would happily
> contribute to a community bread shop with the
> Brick House team being the bakers and continuing
> as an Ďindependentí, but with a business model
> that didnít depend on the buggy brigade and the
> one coffee thanks for the free internet during the
> day, it was never going to make enough money.

I Would agree that too often Brickhouse had valuable table space taken up by people nursing a pot of tea for ages whilst on their computers...more than once I've gone in wanting to eat lunch and found I've had to ask the laptop users to move coats and bags off of chair for me to sit down and I've been given a dirty look for daring to need a bit of elbow room to actually eat.
They should have banned Laptop use twixt 12-3 like other cafes.
Ditto I am not anti new mums and realise its important for them to be able to get out the house and meet other mums with young babies....HOWEVER..they do have a tendency to be oblivious to the needs of other users (a bit like the laptop users!) Perhaps it would have been an idea in retrospect to have a table near the front that is reserved solely for the young mums with room for buggies that way those wanting a quiet lunch or coffee could sit nearer the back
Despite these little gripes (you can't choose your neighbours as you can't choose your fellow diners in a public space) Brickhouse will be sorely missed.
With Aneto closing too it makes me sad for the character of our local high st eateries.

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Posted by DulwichGlobetrotter 30 December, 2019 20:58

So sad about this. After my daughter was born earlier this year I popped past the Brick House to buy my wife and the midwives some breakfast and the team gave me 2 fully stamped cards for free coffees, one saying ďFor MumĒ and the other ďFor DadĒ. Itís easy to be a naysayer and complain about this and that but the staff were always brilliant with my family (the dog too) and the coffee and cakes (and oh those mince pies!) were out of this world. I also enjoyed Shazaming tunes while I waited for my coffee. Best of luck to the staff and owners for their next adventures.

Guess Iíd better dust off the old Nespresso machine...



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messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by tigerranks 31 December, 2019 12:34

i actually wonder where this hike in rates or shop rents is actually going how are people who have a business
venture supposed to start when all you see is shops open then later on close due to these increases
its such a shame
i used to live in Dulwich and was a regular on lordship lane now i just drive through here as its just too
expensive compared to other areas

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by tigerranks 31 December, 2019 12:35

actually wonder where this hike in rates or shop rents is actually going how are people who have a business
venture supposed to start when all you see is shops open then later on close due to these increases
its such a shame
i used to live in Dulwich and was a regular on lordship lane now i just drive through here as its just too
expensive compared to other areas

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by JohnL 31 December, 2019 12:47

Do they have "offer rates" for a year to attract businesses in or are they actually continually rising (possibly due to gentrification in Peckham especially as the station is being changed).

I suppose there is an option to move to somewhere more up and coming if you're a small business - but it's not going to help you gain a local following.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by LJC56 31 December, 2019 14:06

This is very sad news, especially for those of us who use Peckham Rye station and liked to fill the space between just missing an overground train and the next one with an excellent coffee. The fact that Brick House were not able to the renew the contract on the Peckham Rye space is a concern. As/when/if the area around the station and the station are rebuilt, there is the worry that all the small, independent businesses, many of whom were the pioneers in improving the amenities, would be forced out. I hope this isn't what is happening here.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by ab29 31 December, 2019 18:36

The best bread ever - really really bad newssad smiley What will happen with the place? More 'luxury' flats with one bedroom for half a million pounds?

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by carlafindle 31 December, 2019 19:27

ab29 Wrote:
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> The best bread ever - really really bad newssad smiley
> What will happen with the place? More 'luxury'
> flats with one bedroom for half a million pounds?


I'm sorry, but it's not 'really really bad news'... most people are aware and suffer from what 'really really bad news' actually is, and whilst losing a fine local provider, albeit sometimes overflowing with the 'yummy mummy' etc, it is not really that bad, just market forces.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by JohnL January 01, 10:23AM

ab29 Wrote:
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> The best bread ever - really really bad newssad smiley
> What will happen with the place? More 'luxury'
> flats with one bedroom for half a million pounds?

The Peckham Rye one will become a similar business I guess - maybe a coffee house or bar - it's prime position.

The ED one maybe a different case.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by KidKruger January 01, 01:48PM

ď
Posted by carlafindle Yesterday, 07:27PM
ab29 Wrote:
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> The best bread ever - really really bad newssad smiley
> What will happen with the place? More 'luxury'
> flats with one bedroom for half a million pounds?


I'm sorry, but it's not 'really really bad news'... most people are aware and suffer from what 'really really bad news' actually is, and whilst losing a fine local provider, albeit sometimes overflowing with the 'yummy mummy' etc, it is not really that bad, just market forces.
ď

The context of this thread is a bakery closing (which some may feel [in THIS context] is really, really bad news).
You can tell someone theyíre wrong, but youíre out of context (which is plain from the thread title).
I donít think the poster was saying this unfortunate news is equal to earthquake disasters, poverty, or disease, do you, really ?
Also, market forces isnít exorbitant lease increases.
Hence, today, your Ďbang-oní score is zero (0).

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by carlafindle January 01, 04:08PM

KidKruger Wrote:
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> ď
> Posted by carlafindle Yesterday, 07:27PM
> ab29 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The best bread ever - really really bad newssad
> smiley
> > What will happen with the place? More 'luxury'
> > flats with one bedroom for half a million
> pounds?
>
>
> I'm sorry, but it's not 'really really bad
> news'... most people are aware and suffer from
> what 'really really bad news' actually is, and
> whilst losing a fine local provider, albeit
> sometimes overflowing with the 'yummy mummy' etc,
> it is not really that bad, just market forces.
> ď
>
> The context of this thread is a bakery closing
> (which some may feel is really, really bad
> news).
> You can tell someone theyíre wrong, but youíre out
> of context (which is plain from the thread
> title).
> I donít think the poster was saying this
> unfortunate news is equal to earthquake disasters,
> poverty, or disease, do you, really ?
> Also, market forces isnít exorbitant lease
> increases.
> Hence, today, your Ďbang-oní score is zero (0).

Thanks for that, yawn.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by Seabag January 02, 12:59AM

From what Iíve heard in the trade itís a combination of excessive rent increases, and a fall through of another site locally that made it unfeasible for Brickhouse to carry on.

Itís also a loss to the area, as they had a nice offer. It was one of my go to places.

Good luck to them

👍🏽

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by fishbiscuits January 02, 09:42AM

carlafindle Wrote:
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> Thanks for that, yawn.

I'm afraid it was your original post which was rather yawn-inducing (and patronising). I think we all realise that this is not some sort of dire humanitarian crisis. As Kruger says, it's all about context.

And double-yawn for yet more "yummy mummy" bollocks.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by Satellite January 02, 10:01AM

Best bread by a country mile and well worth the price, will be sorely missed by this poster..

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by kerry2015 January 02, 12:49PM

Any recommendations for a decent alternative in the locality?

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by brightfield January 02, 01:24PM

[kei-studios.com]

does the building look familiar?



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messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by prit January 02, 01:29PM

ugh..Gails is crap

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by fishbiscuits January 02, 01:36PM

Indeed. Perhaps Gails gave the landlord an offer that brick house couldn't hope to match. It's a shame as it seems like they're riding on their coattails, cynically muscling in on something they're worked so hard to achieve. (maybe that's not quite the reality, but it's how the situation reads to an outsider).

Gail's have a very different business model, with all baking done in a dedicated facility on a much larger scale. So not only will their margins be greater, they'll be able to fit in a lot more seating without the large on-site bakery.

As others have said... Gail's is OK but it's certainly a lower quality offering.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by fishbiscuits January 02, 01:38PM

Gail's would have been a good fit for the Aneto site... Brick and Gail's could have co-existed... oh well.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by Seabag January 02, 01:51PM

I think the Aneto site is or has been part of the issue, the landlord is notoriously difficult to deal with.

On the bread side, the Snappery bread is good.

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by alice January 02, 02:21PM

ĎThey say all records sound the same then they go buy them.í

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by fishbiscuits January 02, 02:22PM

Bloody landlords!!

messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by spark67 January 02, 07:36PM

Gails .... mass produced bread in a production bakery in I think perivale or Acton, can't think which one, someone who used to work in the bakery I work in was a floor manager there.
Nothing wrong with that sort of produce if well made, but trying to pass it off as some sort of artisan hand crafted one, no.



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messageRe: Brick House Bread announced they arenít reopening
Posted by worldwiser January 02, 07:58PM

Gail's isn't crap, that's a weightless insult. But it is quantifiably inferior to the outgoing product by some considerable margin and given that the price-point is similar to Brick House, it's Gail's that's insulting us.

I hope there are some very red faces when they start shovelling their average bread at people who will know full well that just a short time ago there were real artisans in their stead.

But I don't blame them for simply taking a commercial opportunity. The shame rests very definitely with Park Hill.

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