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Which pubs, bars, restaurants and take-aways do you avoid?
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messageLunch at the Vale
Posted by misinterpreted 26 May, 2009 09:49

I had a great bank holiday weekend, hope everyone else did to. I had a great time checking out the bank holiday offerings of the pubs in ED. It was a surprisingly hot day and the football was on, we started at the Bishop which was rammed full, such an uncomfortable place to be especially when it is hot. The beer is dire in there to, there is hardly any gas to the beer at all and at 3.80 a pop, its a costly pint. We then headed down to the EDT and although the beer is better, the staff are absoloutely ghastly, they would rather have a chat to each other than serve customers. So infuriating. Next stop was the The Vale to watch the football. I must say I dont really head down that way much but I had an excellent time, I saw the match and then we headed out into the garden for some lunch, I read somewhere that there was a new chef there. It was excellent, I had the lamb shank and my mates all had the spicy cajun burger. It really was fantastic. The staff were so friendly, it was busy but not once did I feel crushed or devalued. I will certainly head down there more often. Roll on the next bank holiday weekend!

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Fuschia 26 May, 2009 09:58

Misinterpreted, you just posted in another thread as if you own or work at the Vale..

[www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk]

"Hi Viper,

Thanks for the feedback, what would get you to venture down to see us more? The DJ is actually a very good one, but we are not tied to it. Anything else that you would like to see? Any feedback would be more than welcome.

Thanks"


Oops.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit was 2009:05:26:09:59:45 by Fuschia.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by 26 May, 2009 10:09

lol.......worst plug ever?

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by TillieTrotter 26 May, 2009 10:26

There was no need for that misinterpreted. Silly move.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by 180176 26 May, 2009 10:37

oh no. my toes are curled and my bum is clenched in embarrassment for you misinterpreted. what possessed you??

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by snorky 26 May, 2009 10:41

two problems with the initial posting


1) Its the Vale

2) Its the Vale


The correct approach is to bang on about how great XXXXXX or the XXXXXXX is - it is forum convention that everyone will agree with wnhatever you say on these subjects and no one will be suspicious

Maybe if the Value served 4 plates of olives to its patrons & employed a junior member of staff full time to paint elaborate signeage on a daily basis, things might change

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* new improved non-offensive Snorky *



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2009:05:26:10:44:47 by snorky.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Moos 26 May, 2009 10:46

Ooh, yes I agree snorky - Green and Blue is great.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by HonaloochieB 26 May, 2009 10:58

Why have you Xed out Green & Blue and The Cherry Snorky?
And it looks like that the problem in the first post is that the OP is a scampy little schemer who tried to hoodwink the good burghers of ED. And the hood he was trying to wink us with was made of wool, which he tried to pull over our eyes.
Still he's been caught out good and proper and is probably crying now.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2009:05:26:11:04:24 by HonaloochieB.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Fuschia 26 May, 2009 10:58

I did eat at the Vale one weekday afternoon with son no1 while waiting for a tyre repair. This was last Summer. The guy behind the bar was very friendly.. the place was wather empty and echoing, the food was Okish but they had no veggy choice on offer really.. we had quiche and chips there was nothing else. Is this the place with an outside space for children?

My guess is it isn't marketing itself properly at any niche. It has a dj... aimed at adults out at the weekend?

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by snorky 26 May, 2009 11:14

HonaloochieB Wrote:
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> Why have you Xed out Green & Blue and The Cherry
> Snorky?
> And it looks like that the problem in the first
> post is that the OP is a scampy little schemer who
> tried to hoodwink the good burghers of ED. And the
> hood he was trying to wink us with was made of
> wool, which he tried to pull over our eyes.
> Still he's been caught out good and proper and is
> probably crying now.



snorky does not want the litigation ambulance chasers round his gaff innit

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* new improved non-offensive Snorky *

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Jeremy 26 May, 2009 11:16

This is even worse than the Osbourne Stewart plug, if anyone else remembers that...

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by snorky 26 May, 2009 11:24

steps to mount an effective PR campaign

1) Register on forum en masse using different IPs
2) contribute and get people on your side on a wide range of dull topics, including School waiting lists and lost cats
3) Nothing controversial, just vanilla chit chat - no calls for bourgeois blood to be running in the gutters of LL etc
4) begin the slow process of raising the profile of the establishment - eg "wheres the best place to watch the Liverpool game ? ( the correct answer id of course anywhere except the open sewer that is merseyside) - nominate your chosen bar, quoting previous examples of a fantastic day out for the whole family
5) get other members of the squad to ageee but put a few red herrings in ( " was a bit busy for the the FA cup last year through...took 5 minutes to get to the bar" etc )
6) drip feed the PR on a regtular basis using alternate established logons and reboot your router after each posting to muddy the trail

Success guaranteed - the snorky method

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* new improved non-offensive Snorky *

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Indiana 26 May, 2009 11:26

I love this forum.

I also love his choice of forumite name.

Brilliant comedy.

Thanks Misinterpreted....

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Fuschia 26 May, 2009 11:28

Or better, decide on your niche and offer some sort of incentive.

If you wnat people in to watch footie, do a cheap beer afternoon, 2 for 1 etc.
If you wnat families, promote a child friendly menu or get in a bouncy castle on a Sunday pm etc..

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by lenk 26 May, 2009 11:30

snorky Wrote:
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> steps to mount an effective PR campaign
>
> 1) Register on forum en masse using different IPs
> 2) contribute and get people on your side on a
> wide range of dull topics, including School
> waiting lists and lost cats
> 3) Nothing controversial, just vanilla chit chat -
> no calls for bourgeois blood to be running in the
> gutters of LL etc
> 4) begin the slow process of raising the profile
> of the establishment - eg "wheres the best place
> to watch the Liverpool game ? ( the correct answer
> id of course anywhere except the open sewer that
> is merseyside) - nominate your chosen bar, quoting
> previous examples of a fantastic day out for the
> whole family
> 5) get other members of the squad to ageee but put
> a few red herrings in ( " was a bit busy for the
> the FA cup last year through...took 5 minutes to
> get to the bar" etc )
> 6) drip feed the PR on a regtular basis using
> alternate established logons and reboot your
> router after each posting to muddy the trail
>
> Success guaranteed - the snorky method


I would have made sure I posted using a different username, I don't think it's much more complicated than that. Maybe go through a proxy if you're really trying to cover your tracks.

I've actually been subtly suggesting you all shop at the Irish shop under multiple logins for years now. It's nearly a full-time job.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Jeremy 26 May, 2009 12:06

Why is it that every fake recommendation is so obvious?

Even if this poster hadn't posted the other messasge... even if he/she wasn't a new user... it's just so *obvious* from the tone and format of the post.

Slag off one or two popular establishments.
Mention that you then went to another place, which you wouldn't have normally tried.
Throw in some irrelevant details which you "read somewhere".
Finish with implausible, over-the-top, glowing review of products and service.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Moos 26 May, 2009 12:10

It's the overly detailed 'my mate had the steak tartare with garnish of fried wombat droppings and I had the rich-yet-gooey Portuguese chocolate lardons - yummy' that gives it away for me.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by citizenED 26 May, 2009 12:20

Gosh you cynics; there's me thinking it a heartfelt post from a local: I guess I misinterpreted.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Michael Palaeologus 26 May, 2009 12:21

N.T.V! It has been true for some time now and still is.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by HonaloochieB 26 May, 2009 12:34

"I read somewhere that there was a new chef there".

The staff rota? Team meeting minutes? The postit on the till?

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by dulwichbloke 26 May, 2009 13:19

Brilliant! You couldn't make it up!

Oh, wait a minute, he did.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by Sue 26 May, 2009 13:29

big grin

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by SCSB79 26 May, 2009 13:32

Absolutely busted!!

Well done to the EDF detectives!!

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by PinkyB 26 May, 2009 13:38

"Not once did I feel crushed or devalued"!!

Loving this line. Why do I suspect this is an exact quote from a letter of complaint they've have recently? Let's face it, no-one uses that phrase in normal conversation.

"I went to Sainsburys on Saturday afternoon, the queues were massive and there were only about 5 tills open. I have to say, I felt completely crushed and devalued."

"I got on the 176 bus last night, after waiting twenty minutes, it was rammed as usual and I couldn't sit down because someone had their bags on the seat. I felt completely crushed and devalued."

"My cat ran away at the weekend, I felt completely crushed and devalued."

See, it sounds almost normal now, doesn't it?

Now determined to shoehorn this phrase into monthly sales meeting with boss this afternoon!

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by dulwichbloke 26 May, 2009 13:47

This one is even better than the Osbourne Stewart plug. The self-serving detail and the slagging off of the competition is the best so far!

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by PinkyB 26 May, 2009 13:55

I should add that I've never actually been in The Vale, mainly because any place that advertises itself as a "DJ Bar" is obvious shorthand for "full of trendy @#$%&" and "won't have Strongbow on tap and will instead try to peddle you some ridculous imported designed by marketing gonks brand of cider in a massive bottle and (horrors!) with ice, for almost twice as much as a normal pint would have cost you."

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by PinkyB 26 May, 2009 13:56

Interesting. I typed tw * ts and the forum automatically converted it into @#$%&

Does it do the same with "@#$%&"?

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by PinkyB 26 May, 2009 13:56

Yes.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by lenk 26 May, 2009 13:56

This thread makes me feel crushed and devalued.

messageRe: Lunch at the Vale
Posted by ratty 26 May, 2009 14:08

PinkyB Wrote:
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> I should add that I've never actually been in The
> Vale, mainly because any place that advertises
> itself as a "DJ Bar" is obvious shorthand for
> "full of trendy @#$%&" and "won't have Strongbow
> on tap and will instead try to peddle you some
> ridculous imported designed by marketing gonks
> brand of cider in a massive bottle and (horrors!)
> with ice, for almost twice as much as a normal
> pint would have cost you."


HA HA - you could not be further from the truth!!!!

Also, I have a sneaky feeling that the OP may be a she not a he!

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