To be fair, I remember my dad and all his friends drinking in the CPT (kept well and truly in the family!!!) in the 80's, and it was quite a little community, and more like the Queen Vic sort of thing. I know my dad misses that, and he's found a couple of other "backstreet boozers" to drink in... Things were different then though, and generally men would go down the boozer a lot more, and wouldn't really get so involved in bringing up the kids. Please don't think I'm saying things shouldn't have changed, I'm just saying that as far as the pubs go, they definitely have! Also, a lot of people on here seem to think that a person who does want to go to a more old school pub for a pint, is going to be some stereotyped extra from Only fools & horses. I'd just like to say, that I love "pubs", and am not a big fan of most of the places down LL. However, I'm still pretty young, and I'm cool as f**k ;-)