I agree, there seems to be a unprepossessing steeliness about this newish side and I rather hope it continues, but as you say...England... I've been advocating dropping the stars if they're not performing since Sven's star-struck stupidity (ooh, nice alliteration, you might want to try more of that and less bile Atila[sic]). MacLaren's hand may have been forced, but I hope he's learnt the obvious lessons. Ooh, and it was mine, couldn't resist after saturday's topsy-turvy results!!