When Huguenot and I were exploring this place in Umbria (would love to buy it and do it up by the way, check th view ) we found some sort of funnel web spider, well it was a spider in a web shaped like a funnel (the web, not the spider) It moved pretty quickly and was thankfully pretty shy, but it was about 2 inches long and had a green back that shone like burnished bronze. Anyone any clues, I'd love to know? (I've a photo somewhere of the web, can upload it later) Ooh, I was also harrassed by the biggest hornet I've ever seen, it sounded like a helicopter and was the size of a small bird!! Fecund place umbria.