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davidk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This happened right infront of me. Have given > statement to the Police. Probably not prudent to > say much more but the victim was badly injured but > will survive. Bloody hell, poor you. Hope you weren't too traumatised. Glad to hear the victim is at least alive :( Hope they find the perpetrator, if they haven't already done so. Are you able to say whether it was someone known to the victim? I'm selfishly hoping that it wasn't a random stabbing as I live not far from there.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > I think it's a real shame that you now have to > pay > > to go to Brockwell Park. > > > I don't personally. > > Had terrible experiences trying to get in there in > previous years, would much rather pay ?7, have it > less busy, and get more entertainment for my > money. Doesn't make it very inclusive, does it? ?7 is a lot of money if you're unemployed or on other benefits. Or on minimum wage. We never had trouble getting in and getting a good view, you just had to get there about half an hour before the start. Getting out, however, was a different matter .... and must have been particularly scary if you were a small child in the crush. ETA: And the new charge doesn't seem to have been very well advertised - I only found out by chance from a post on Facebook.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > he means pizza. I know, hilarious Oh dear.

Is there anywhere round here from where you can see fireworks around London? Dawson Heights? One Tree Hill?

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Then There was the Cheese on Toast phase and that > was the final nail. > The Cheese on Toast phase?!?!?! What was that?!?!?!

Southwark Park fireworks are free. http://www.southwark.gov.uk/southwarkpresents/fireworks I think it's a real shame that you now have to pay to go to Brockwell Park.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hot dogs, diner food, hog roast, Vietnamese food > and I think Mexican food - all hot. > Then you've bakery, deli, pasta, sausage/wurst. > > What food d'ya think is missing ? xxxxx Cheese and fish, as well. Also honey. And fudge. And popcorn :)) ETA: And the stall with the fantastic pies and Scotch eggs .....

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > At some point not long after opening it started to > go wrong and I heard they had kicked out some key > owner/mangers early doors and never recovered. xxxxxxx How can you kick out a "key owner"???? ETA: Actually none of the people running it ever "owned" it, so far as I know, as it was a tied pub, but still, there was a team of people apparently managing it, so what happened?

loobylou Wrote: I'm hoping for all of > them that the cinema makes things better in > terms of foot fall. But who is "all of them" now? Who is/are actually left of the people who were involved in this "community pub" when it started with such a fanfare and such high hopes? Growing all its food on the roof and in the garden at the back, involving local school children in the food growing, completely self-sufficient, community owned, MasterChef winner supervising the menu/kitchen, VIP celebrity opening bash ..... Don't get me wrong. I really hate to see any local business fail. And when The Patch actually opened, I had to eat my hat as I never thought it would get that far. But - something has apparently gone horribly wrong, hasn't it. And the cinema may well "make things better" in terms of footfall, but crikey, that would be an enormous stroke of luck for them, wouldn't it?

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A few posters above just rehashing what they've > said before a thousand times. The peculiar story of its founding, trajectory and the massively misplaced egos of some of the founders interests me more. It's a modern fable. xxxxxxxxx Yes MrBen, but things were said "a thousand times" before The Patch opened. We're now almost a year on. Worth rehashing with hindsight, I would say? ETA: I only ever met (to the best of my knowledge) one of the people who started it, before it started, but I'd say "massively misplaced ego" probably would describe it :(

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Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Or perhaps the search for a lost child mentioned > on another thread. Don't think there would have been sirens in a search for a lost child, unless it was an attempted abduction, which it doesn't seem it was?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @MPSSouthwark > Several units involved in a search for a lost 4 > year old in Peckham Rye Park. > Successfully reunited with mother :) ^KJR Well that's some very good news, anyway. Poor mother. Every parent's nightmare.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > It's location is not ideal. > I don't think it viable to run any successful > business from that location. > Even someone who knows what they are doing would > fail. > The most worrying thing to me was that when they were trying to get financial backing, they stated in the first sentence of their blurb that the location was their main advantage, because it was in "Lordship Lane" which had "high footfall", or was the centre of lots of activity, or something. Lordship Lane is a very long road, and nearly all the action currently happens at the main drag further down. The Patch is presently out on a limb (and I don't think the cinema was publicly in the pipeline at that time? It certainly wasn't mentioned in their business plan, or at least the parts of it divulged on here) The Patch would have to either appeal strongly to nearby-ish residents who would use it as their local (which it did not seem to go out of its way to do, despite originally positioning itself as a community pub) or else be a - can't think of the word, somewhere which people from quite a wide area go out of their way to go to because of a particular unique offering, or excellent good value food, or a fantastic atmosphere. Sadly, as soon as I saw that they thought that their location was a great advantage, I thought they would be exceedingly lucky to succeed if that was the level of their business sense :( ETA: Just seen the above post. Yes, it's a tied pub. ETA: And yes, I think it could do well with a different management team, but I'm not sure why somebody would take it on unless they could buy the freehold and do as they wanted. Can't remember who presently owns it, but that didn't bode well either if memory serves. People were posting on here warning others not to touch it with a bargepole in terms of taking on the lease.

Minder - no, it was clear from your post that you were commenting on an incident in Lewisham and making a general point about the police response to such incidents. I was responding to Buggie's point that the perpetrators are the root cause of whatever happens, and also criticisms of the police response. Sorry if you felt I was getting at you personally. Does it really matter?

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The place was rubbish when it reopened so gawd > knows how bad it is now. Those tripadvisor > reviews say it all really. Some of the early reviews were quite glowing, to be fair. Since I couldn't afford to eat there, I can't say whether or not they were accurate, or placed by friends of the owners. As that Masterchef chef was involved at the start, probably they were accurate. Had a drink there once. The place was empty.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > *PING* :))

According to their Twitter feed they are currently selling an oven which is "surplus to requirements."

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g18 > 6338-d5960435-Reviews-The_Patch-London_England.htm > l Empty frozen roast potato and yorkshire pudding bags in the bin? But the owner claimed that everything was freshly prepared? Well, that's not a lie. You prepare frozen stuff by taking it out of the bag and heating it up. Has the Patch completely changed ownership, then? I thought only two thirds of it had gone? Is there nobody at all from the original team still there? Sounds like they need to do something very urgently about the food if they're still charging those prices. I'd be spitting blood if I paid seventeen quid for a roast like a school dinner - but probably not from the meat. If anything like my school dinners, it would have been in the oven for years :))

Cryptic.

buggie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rather than moaning about the police response to > the incident, think it should be the > perpetrator(s) you blame for your inconvenience. Indeed. The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't, it seems. And meantime, please remember somebody has apparently been stabbed - which rather overshadows any inconvenience to others, I feel.

https://poppies.hrp.org.uk/about-the-installation

Beej Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree it's not easy getting a slot - my partner > wanted to sell wine glasses, tumblrs and wine > related accessories in the run up to Christmas and > was told there were already people doing that. > Uhhhm where? And in case someone from 'the > powers', is reading this post - can't you make the > market a little more, I don't, better....? I mean > more like Brockley Market etc - filled with A LOT > OF NICE THINGS particularly more food stalls? > because quite frankly I think ours is an > embarrassment compared to others nearby. But there are loads of food stalls! It isn't a farmers' market!

Very shocked to hear of this. I saw the helicopter too and thought it was unusual to see one at that time of day. My thoughts too with the victim and family. Really hope it wasn't fatal.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Funny, old & young people listening to 'Folk' > didn't feature xxxxxx No, probably because, funny, most of those people are not hipsters ..... thank God :)