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Salsaboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Had a fantastic lunch yesterday in Brighton at a > veggie restaurant called Food for Friends. Worth > the trip to the coast just for the starters. > > Yumyum xxxxxx Terre a Terre is the best veggie restaurant in Brighton I know - not cheap but definitely worth it :) ETA: It's making me drool just reading the menu descriptions .....

Never heard of supply and demand? Those traders are there because people who come to the market want their goods and will pay their prices, otherwise the traders wouldn't bother. If you're jealous of them, why not have a stall yourself if you think it just involves taking things from skips and sticking high price tags on them? There's already at least one thread discussing the nature of this market .....

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh come on - they'll only have a half-life of 6000 > years. By then almost everything will be made out > of bright blue plastic anyway - even the trees. xxxxxxx Yeh, it all reminds me of that Joni Mitchell line "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot". They paved paradise And put up a parking lot With a pink hotel, a boutique And a swinging hot spot Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got ?Til it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot They took all the trees And put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people A dollar and a half just to see 'em Don't it always seem to go, That you don't know what you've got ?Til it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot :-S

Don't think the council actually pays anything, though I might be wrong - I've filed away all the paperwork now (in the newly insulated loft, so I can't be a***d to find it to check!!!). The council is associated with a particular loft insulation company, but when I compared costs, that company was more expensive than a firm where the council wasn't involved.

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Yes it is. I have a psychology degree which > included clinical psychology, and have done > postgraduate research in psychology." > > Well done you. Have you read the research you > posted a link to? Not just the abstract, but the > methodology and findings? In your expert opinion > does it support your assertion that bright blue > bins are capable of impacting negatively on the > mental health of ED residents to the same extent > as constant loud music? Do you want to talk me > through how you came to that conclusion? While > you're at it, can you explain why, as has already > been pointed out, you came out with this > nonsense: > > "There are statistics indicating the relationship > between the visual environment and crime, for > example the New York zero tolerance of graffiti > and litter." > > If you're going to make this kind of statement: > > "you'd be better advised not to make statements > about things you clearly know nothing about" > > you'd better be on very firm ground. And it also > puts you in a very poor position to complain about > unpleasantness. > > If you don't like the look of the blue bins, just > say so. Trying to invest your opinion with > quasi-scientific authority plus showing us your > certificates just ain't very persuasive. > > ETA - I have a whole load of experience of crime > and disorder, much of it involving people with > mental health problems, but it has zero relevance > to my opinion on blue bins. xxxxxxx You are of course completely right on every count, and I bow to your far greater knowledge, experience and good humour :)

Mrs TP Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The girl who knocked at ours told me it was a free > grant. xxxxxxx It is free if you are on certain benefits. If you aren't, you get a certain amount of the insulating paid (I can't remember how much, but it does make quite a difference to the cost). Different companies will charge you different amounts. However they all are obviously claiming the grant money back from the government, hence the hard sell.

Champers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > > > > Maybe you don't care about a lot of things, it > > doesn't mean to say other people might not like > to > > have their voice heard. > > > Sue, sorry but you don't know me and to suggest I > might not care about a lot of things is rather > poor. I have, as others have, expressed my view > but you seem to not accept that others can and are > likely to disagree with you. xxxxxxx You don't seem to have read my posts. 1. I did not say you don't care about a lot of things, I said maybe. Obviously as I don't know you, I don't know. 2. You have expressed your view, as have others, that you don't care about the colour. I accept that. However, a lot of people do, and I have also indicated that the visual environment has an impact. Even the council themselves accept that, which is why they have a Streetscape guide which includes guidance on things like signage colour and street bin colour. The only reason the Streetscape team were not consulted about the wheelie bin colour, apparently, is because it was considered that these bins came within property boundaries and were not part of the street environment. When it was pointed out to them at their council assembly on Wednesday that this was not actually so, they have agreed to change the bin colour in future to something more appropriate, ie a darker blue. OK? And now I have to go and get ready for a gig tonight, where hopefully the atmosphere will be rather more pleasant than some of the posts on this thread. Edited for typo

------------------------------------------------------- > "Unless you're a psychologist yourself, perhaps > you'd be better advised not to make statements > about things you clearly know nothing about" DaveR Wrote: > > And I would suggest that a bit of mid-afternoon > googling is no substitute for having genuine > knowledge or expertise > > But that's just me being rude again xxxxxxx Yes it is. I have a psychology degree which included clinical psychology, and have done postgraduate research in psychology. Do you have a background in a relevant subject?

Champers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I think Sue, we get the message...but we don't > have to agree with you and I'm in the camp of 'who > cares?!'. The colour really doesn't bother me at > all - xxxxxx But it does bother a number of other people, and if you don't care, others do. Maybe you don't care about a lot of things, it doesn't mean to say other people might not like to have their voice heard.

McSweeney Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think the onus not to make statements about > things you know nothing about is on the people > making the odd connections (crime and blue bins) - > not those that are querying the connection. xxxxxx There are statistics indicating the relationship between the visual environment and crime, for example the New York zero tolerance of graffiti and litter. I suggest it's you who needs to back up your statements. Clearly there are no experiments specifically on bright blue wheelie bins :)) however if we had known they were coming in, it could have made a good undergraduate thesis subject for a psychology student. ETA: Too many variables to compare with another borough with dark blue bins now, would be much too complex to do properly.

Just one example I don't have time to do further research at the moment, but I'm sure I can find loads more examples. ETA: Unless you're a psychologist yourself, perhaps you'd be better advised not to make statements about things you clearly know nothing about :-S

Just had two people knock on my door about exactly the same thing - "Have you had your grant?" When I said that people had only just been round, I was told "Yes it's my colleague, I've got to make sure he's doing his job properly." I pointed out that people were likely to get pretty pissed off being called on twice within a very short space of time about the same subject. I already got my grant some time ago, but I didn't use this company, I checked out what other providers were charging first (unless you are on certain benefits, you still have to pay something towards the cost of installation).

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "If this was constant loud music noise, would you > still feel the same? It's visual noise. And I > would suggest equally harmful to people's mental > wellbeing." > > And I would suggest that you are off your chump. > But lets just agree to disagree. xxxxxxxx And I would suggest that you are extremely rude :-S

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blue bins affect crime rates. > Blue bins are harmful to your mental wellbeing. > It's an unforgiveable error, and the bins must be > replaced. > > I honestly can't tell who is taking the piss and > who's being serious. xxxxxxxxx Nobody's saying the bins must be replaced, I think. Clearly that would cost too much. The council have agreed to order more appropriate dark blue bins in the future. Other councils appear to have managed to take the visual environment into account when ordering blue recycling bins, by ordering a darker less obtrusive blue, so I'm not sure why you think this is such an odd notion.

See this thread about draughtproofing wiindows and floors

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > we didn't get our recycling collected yesterday! > that's over two weeks. anyone else? xxxxxxx Have you reported it to the council? They will just do nothing otherwise, their collection schedule appears to be completely up the creek. ETA: Mind you don't hold your breath, I'm still waiting for the smaller green bin I ordered. Admittedly they said they couldn't say when I would get it, so I have no idea when is a reasonable time after which to chase them ....

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I, on the other hand, am taking > the piss, and freely admit it. Landscape? Don't > make me laugh. It's a Victorian railway suburb, > not an unspoilt wilderness. xxxxxxxx Just because it's not an unspoilt wilderness doesn't mean to say we should just stand back and see it further spoilt, DaveR. Those people who are happy with having the area where they live covered in bright blue plastic have obviously got no aesthetic sensibility whatsoever. If this was constant loud music noise, would you still feel the same? It's visual noise. And I would suggest equally harmful to people's mental wellbeing.

In case anybody missed it on This thread I got a public commitment from Barrie Hargrove at the council assembly last night to take aesthetic considerations into account when deciding on bin colours for future orders. Sadly, of course, that doesn't help the present situation as they're hardly going to spend enormous amounts of money changing the shade of blue of bins they've already bought and distributed. (6)

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Go Now - Moody Blues (now where is my school uniform?)

the-e-dealer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Exclusive for ED Veggies to discuss matters > vegetarian. > > This was spawned by the upset it caused among some > meat eaters that someone wanted to have a meat > free day. > > Is this in the right Forum? xxxxxxxx No, this is "What's On" - I think you want the lounge!

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > This is a iwind up. Surely....? > > Only just seen this thread, and my thoughts > exactly xxxxxxx The guy who has moved out of the Junction shop told me that there is no way this shop will become an Indian restaurant. ETA: Sadly, as it was a Saturday night and I'd had a few bevvies, I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something to do with council regulations for Lordship Lane, in fact he may have also said it couldn't be a restaurant at all, but whatever it was, it deffo won't be an Indian restaurant. So I think the OP is confirmed as a wind-up.

Thanks Cassius, but it's a pity nobody was apparently consulted - or even told - about the colour of the new bins before they were ordered. As it is, as virtually everybody who wants one now has their bin, and presumably the council has some spare ones, plus they last for years, the only real effect is that maybe now the council will take aesthetics into account in other similar areas of their work, because it's too late for my representation to make much practical difference at this point :-S

Terry Pratchett is brilliant :)-D

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >Status Quo - Pictures of Matchstick Men xxxxxx I saw them do this live - eat your heart out :)) (Down the Dustpipe is much better though :)) )