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I should inform the police and the park-keepers. I don't want to belittle the pain and trauma for your dog but the Husky may do this to a child.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Watch/listen to the video. It explains it really > well. Cooping people up 24/7 does harm, unless > you are fortunate enough to be in a large house > with extensive grounds. The key message is stay > inside, which is being echoed by those most > closely associated with the crisis. Stay inside > with the exception of essential journeys, for > food, and for health reasons, including exercise. > Once a day. In your essential journeys socially > distance, don't use this as excuse to meet up with > friends, play football in the park, sun bathe etc. > You will not get 100% compliance but it's pretty > good. > > By stressing the stay inside this will discourage > the worst abuses. This is a measured balanced > position by government, recognising that we are > not in a police state, and the resources that > would require which can be much better used (and > the danger of civil unrest if we do have more > draconian restrictions). > > If you want to stay inside 25/7 fine. Please stop > demonising the rest of us. He is the national clinical director of Scotland. This is the first time I have heard anyone say that mental health and domestic violence referrals have already risen -- predictable but surprising to see it so quickly.

This is not to do with cycling so I am continuing to derail my own thread but Jason Leitch, the national clinical director of Scotland, seems to have comms skills that no one in the UK government has. This is him on the "three harms" the damage of coronavirus, the damage to everyone who has cancer, kidney failure and all other ills who may miss treatment and the damage inflicted by lockdown (mental health, economy, domestic violence) It's the BBC Scotland "everything has a cost" video. The whole thing is interesting.

The Healthy Streets approach is to widen the pavements so that pedestrians have more room and wheelchairs can pass safely. This can be combined with build-outs which stop cars from parking on the built out kerb so that people can cross. first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bagpuss, it is such a shame the Healthy Streets > campaign could not prioritise work on paving so it > can be brought up to standard throughout ED. Many > of the pavements are in a terrible and even > dhangerous state and this is not acceptable for > anyone with a disability or mobility issues. > > Work of this nature is not as politically ?sexy? > as some of the other campaigns but would make a > huge difference to people like you. In terms of > equality and the rights of disabled people to > access and use pavements you wonder how the > council has managed to get away with such poor > upkeep and management of vital infrastructure for > so long? > > Why not lobby your councillor? Ex Councillor Robin > (rch on here) would help you.

Maybe we could agree on this: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do 1. When am I allowed to leave the house? You should only leave the house for very limited purposes: shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid or escape risk of injury or harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home

https://www.bindmans.com/news/government-guidance-changed-to-permit-people-with-specific-health-needs-to-exercise-outside-more-than-once-a-day-and-to-travel-to-do-so-where-necessary The medical guidance on exercise during lockdown has changed (see above) this won't affect everyone but it will be very important for those it does. It now says: You can leave your home for medical need. If you (or a person in your care) have a specific health condition that requires you to leave the home to maintain your health - including if that involves travel beyond your local area - then you can do so. This could, for example, include where individuals with learning disabilities or autism require specific exercise in an open space two or three times each day - ideally in line with a care plan agreed with a medical professional. Lambeth Mental Health and Learning Disabilities Team (based at SLAM) are providing letters supportive of medical need. I don't know if Southwark has an equivalent. Follows threat of legal action. Any doctor will do (or none)

https://www.bindmans.com/news/government-guidance-changed-to-permit-people-with-specific-health-needs-to-exercise-outside-more-than-once-a-day-and-to-travel-to-do-so-where-necessary It now says You can leave your home for medical need. If you (or a person in your care) have a specific health condition that requires you to leave the home to maintain your health - including if that involves travel beyond your local area - then you can do so. This could, for example, include where individuals with learning disabilities or autism require specific exercise in an open space two or three times each day - ideally in line with a care plan agreed with a medical professional. Lambeth Mental Health and Learning Disabilities Team (based at SLAM) are providing these letters. I don't know if Southwark has an equivalent. Follows threat of legal action.

Thank you my lovely ones. You've made an old woman very happy. Stay safe and look after yourselves (and other people)

In the new world of lockdown, some people are thinking of beginning to cycle. There are many reasons why a person might want to cycle for the first time. If that's you, post here or DM me. I shall not inquire into your personal reasons. I shall try and help you. Key workers (guidance here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-educational-provision/guidance-for-schools-colleges-and-local-authorities-on-maintaining-educational-provision can get free cycle training from cycle confident https://www.cycleconfident.com/ I belong to Southwark Cyclists who are the borough branch of the London Cycling Campaign. Our website is here [southwarkcyclists.org.uk]. Our email address is [email protected]. If we can assist you, just let us know.

The right to take daily exercise is enshrined in law. Only Parliament could change it. The BBC reports that at his daily CV press conference Hancock "raised the possibility of an extension of the lockdown" but dismissed it. He said the government is not looking at tightening the rules on exercising outdoors. ?What we are doing is being absolutely clear that the current rules must be followed,? he said. He said the rules are designed to include exercise to protect people?s physical and mental wellbeing. We can be grateful for that democratically provided protection and the thoughtfulness which, even in a crisis, considered the needs of all (he didn't say that last sentence, I did).

The Healthy Streets option is to widen the pavements -- this gives space to pedestrians to move freely, slows traffic and reduces pollution and road danger. One solution to people parking across drop-kerbs is to contact Apcoa on 0207 708 8587 and describe the problem. I have done this with good results A longer term solution is build-outs with drop-kerbs. Cars cannot park across them without blocking the road. Currently Southwark is installing either build outs or islands wide enough to protect a wheelchair and assistant.

The reduction in traffic congestion (caused by CV lockdown and the recession)is causing increased speed (IMO). Do people think it has got worse since the lockdown? In which case could add stress as a cause?

I think the Healthy Streets option would be to widen the pavements so that elderly and disabled people can go round the other side of the trees/bins/dog mess etc. This would be compatible with traffic, speed and pollution reduction as well as saving both the trees and elderly people's time and patience Pugwash Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whilst I appreciate that having trees is essential > to our environment and that Southwark does not > like cutting down trees but in some cases trees > are detrimental to some members of society. > > Today I had to push a disabled male relative in a > wheelchair to enable him to get to his barbers. > Tree roots at the top of Barry Road by the Plough > car park had raised the camber of the pavement to > such extent that I could not get the chair over > this section and was forced to go back a few yards > to find a dropped kerb and pushed the wheelchair > in the road facing the incoming traffic. Crossing > at the lights over Lordship lane was a nightmare > and the chair nearly toppled over when a friend > came to my rescue and also a young man on a moped > stopped to assist. On the return journey, I had to > pull the chair backwards across the crossing and > again walk in the road until I found a dropped > kerb. > > The paving stones near this tree are being > uprooted and are dangerous for those with limited > vision and reduced mobility. I have informed > Southwark Highways of this area. > > Looking at Lordship Lane in general, I have > noticed that with cafes using their forecourts > (and beyond) for table as and chairs, there is > limited space on the pavements for wheelchairs. I > watched as several women with buggies, were > standing talking near Farmers and disregarded > elderly folk using their 3 wheeler walkers trying > to pass them. I was too far away on the other side > of the road to suggest to them that they were > obstructing the pavement. > > I have a number of disabled friends, one with > impaired vision, the others with varying degrees > of mobility issues who admit that sometimes just > going to the shops can be a major hurdle - bus > drivers can be impatient if you take too long to > get on and off the bus, street furniture, poorly > maintained forecourts, lack of accessible WCs in > some of the eateries on LL, and sometimes general > lack of consideration by other shoppers/visitors > to the area. > > Southwark wants us to have 'healthy streets' we > need to look beyond having strategically placed > benches, 'green walls' and see how we can make > life easier, safer and better for those who have > various forms of disability and mobility.

And also this one on the psychological problems caused by quarantine https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/pub0002/?utm_source=Govdelivery&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=publichealth&utm_content=UKRI_owned

In the spirit of "walk a mile in my shoes": https://davidallengreen.com/2020/04/what-is-the-bindmans-challenge-to-the-coronavirus-government-guidance-about/

Surely sore throat medicine would be available over the counter? Surgeries generally have email. Don't go to A&E.

You can find our guides to local cycle routes here: https://southwarkcyclists.org.uk/healthy-rides/ We are not running our regular Saturday morning social rides because they are so friendly it is difficult to arrange social distancing. I find cycle.travel good for finding new enjoyable leisure routes. You have to register to save maps but then just stick your beginning and end point in and a useful route emerges. Google routeplanning is hopeless but others that people use are openstreets and cyclestreets. Let's Ride is also good (Malumbo's route comes from there).

They are repulsive. They belong to the Barclay brothers who own the Daily Telegraph and are losing shedloads of money. I haven't got any useful suggestions but I offer sympathy. Try the small claims court.

malumbu Wrote: > > Sadly Brenchley gardens, even with much less > traffic, still feels like a motorised vehicle race > track. But that is an issue for another day. There's a now-closed consultation. https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/brenchley-gardens-20mph/.

Cycle Confident are doing free bike training for key workers https://www.cycleconfident.com There is a government list of key workers here. Social distancing will still apply obvs https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-educational-provision/guidance-for-schools-colleges-and-local-authorities-on-maintaining-educational-provision

A friend was trying to buy a bike so she could get out of the house safely and found Halfords had run out. If anyone in this position wants to buy a bike then Lewisham Cyclists have a couple which they can service, wash with hot soapy water and isopropyl and deliver. They are a charity and would appreciate a donation because they are currently broke. If that sounds like what you want, DM me and I will put you in touch

Boris Johnson last night "That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes: Shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible. One form of exercise a day - for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household; Any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and Travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home. That's all - these are the only reasons you should leave your home." The roads are emptier but everyone on them seems to be in a very bad temper so, if you are choosing cycling for exercise then take a look at our social ride routes on line https://southwarkcyclists.org.uk/healthy-rides/healthy-ride-of-the-week/. These should be safe from traffic and social distancing will keep you safe from CV

The CDC report seems to be talking about medical facilities caring for seriously ill patients rather than people out in the open air. However, there does seem to be ambiguity about precisely what "airborne" means. This is only Wired so a journalistic summary of the arguement: https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/ "Notably, while the joint WHO-China mission report published in late-February said that although airborne particles were ?not believed to be a major driver of transmission,? it noted that such a mode ?can be envisaged if certain aerosol-generating procedures are conducted in health care facilities.? Julian Tang and his colleagues have created a visualization of the breaths exchanged by two people in conversation standing three feet apart. Most of the time, the puffs of air they let out remain separate; but portions of their exhalations do sneak from each person?s breathing space into the other?s. "Given all this uncertainty, some experts say there needs to be better public messaging on the spread of the new coronavirus. ?Crowded public transport where people can breathe on each other may also lead to transmission of infection,? Tang says, echoing public-health advice that, while widespread, may not be getting as much emphasis as hand-washing. Milton agrees, adding that it might be wise to shut off air-recirculation systems in cars, which could potentially spread the pathogen among passengers." I agree that the big crowds of cyclists on the superhighways queuing at the lights wouldn't fit a definition of "social distancing". The truth as always seems more nuanced than appears at first glance.

CV is not airborne so panting shouldn't be a problem. I find Jason Leitch CMO of Scotland good and I hope that a clip of him saying "the virus is not airborne" is here: at about 2.51, it's their pinned tweet. Essential workers are essential and this is mostly about them. These are to help someone get to St George's Tooting for example. https://cycle.travel/map/journey/145302 either should help someone who wants to cycle to stay alive. Clearly there is a faster alternative for anyone who is OK with CS7 which will probably be more crowded. That is here: https://cycle.travel/map/journey/145192 Southwark Cyclists have cancelled our social rides because of a fear that regular riders will find social distancing difficult. I'm with you on the dangers........

sometimes riding on pavements is permitted and will be marked as permitted. But it should always be considerate. Not stopping at pedestrian red lights is not permitted and never considerate. ------------------------------------------------------- > And please don't ride on the pavements or go > through red lights on pedestrian crossings - I > know its scary at times, but please remember those > of us on foot too!