Frisco

"The bloke from Terry's DIY with a magnificent barnet is the only other chap to match Elvis." I've been in there today but didn't see anyone with a 'magnificent barnet'.

"I remember the days when those of us with no sense of time whatsoever lived with the comfort of knowing that you could always go to Mount Pleasant or even to Kings Cross in the middle of the night and give it to the nice man on the post train." Yes, those were the days, and there was always the main post office in King Edward Street in the City too! If I miss the post I tend to drive over to the sorting office on Nine Elms Lane. I think the last collection there is 8pm, but you'll probably never find out information like that on the Royal Mail/Post Office website. They can't even tell you collection times at sorting offices if you call the main number.

You're showing your age there Bob; not to mention your dubious taste in films!

"Forgive me Matt, but what exactly is a gay friendly pub? Surely a pub is a pub, and your sexuality should have nothing to do with it....." :-) I debated this issue with someone on another thread matt started in the recommendations section about a month ago. In an ideal world it shouldn't have anything to do with it, but in reality it does. I think we concluded that the PRPG is gay friendly. Reviews also say that the food is good there too.

"One pound sixty for one single a4 copy. Ouch!" Ouch indeed! Unless they do big discounts for larger runs, that would have made my printing bill nearly ?70!

"Se23 starts 3/4 way up Forest Hill Road so Ryedale is safely within SE22 - Don't worry Seanmlow - you will be in East Dulwich still." When I moved here that area was referred to by estate agents (in spite of being still SE22) as Peckham Rye. Of course that was before ED developed into a swanky area, and estate agents wanted to cash in on the apparent kudos of using its name. Oh how times have changed!

_However I nearly fell off the chair when I realised how much the colour photocopy was!_ How much was it? I needed to print off a couple of copies of a very large official document last week, and one of the options was to print off one copy on my domestic printer and have it copied there. I went the the library instead and paid them to print it off on their laser printer.

"Frisco do come round for sherry. We can apply Oxford debating rules and Chav can be off limits, which will require a lot of restraint." I don't drink Maurice, and I have no wish to role-play your Georgie and Lucia fantasy with you.

It's always been like that in there. I'm surprised they survive.

"I would add Frisco, it is absolutely fine to have a laugh at those perceived as 'rich toffs' but there isn't equal latitude given to those who live their lives off the system and destroy rather than create community." Maurice dear, you assume that I'm not a rich toff myself. Some are socially aware and do have consciences, you know, and don't wish to live in gated ivory towers. Some are also capable of accepting the rough and the smooth of living in a socially and racially mixed inner city suburb. However, if I wanted to live in isolation from my diverse surroundings and neighbours I certainly wouldn't have chosen to live in Camberwell, or ED come to that. And just for information, I am equally critical of those 'who live their lives off the system' (although I'd have to further explore you meaning of this to be sure we were on the same wavelength) and who destroy rather than create community, whatever their background.

"What rot! Why should people who don't like boom-boom cars and other anti-social and possibly illegal activities not voice their sentiments?" Of course they have the right to voice their sentiments, but people also have the right to be critical of them. However, what those who exercise the right to express their sentiments don't have the right to expect is that they have the right to demand or expect is that these are a valid reason for close roads to traffic. As community members, we should all be committed to dealing with the problems you identify but the solution to the problems is not to exclude people and to create almost gated communities for twee isolationist snobs or the wealthy.

"pekcham" Is this an estate agent's creation? It sounds as though it should be a very posh place.

"as you cannot get them done at Kings anymore." You can, they just tut and give you a slip telling you that you should really have gone to Dulwich. The blood testing service in this area, and at Kings in particular, is an absolute mess.

"So what is still left of the hospital (i.e. what wards/clinics and would you ever choose any over those in King's) and are there any plans to revive it? Those blue fences/boards used to make me think redevelopment work was going on..." A new community hospital is being built there. Information here: http://www.dulwichcommunityhospital.nhs.uk/

I'm 100% sure the Clapham one opened before the ED one, for the reasons given above. Hence I know exactly what Sea Cow was going to be before it opened its doors in LL. "The Clapham one has now closed and been replaced by a different outfit called the Fish Club." Thanks for this, I hadn't realised. I guess the general competition in CHS saw them off, and the reviews I read were pretty dire.

"Frisco - road closure such as this have happened elsewhere. Daneville Road for example has been closed off in the middle which makes for a much quieter Selborne Village." Alan Dale, the closure you refer to makes sense in the context of it being immediately next to the shopping centre and its greater potential to be a rat-run. "I think it is important to separate the issue of traffic from gated communities." I'm sure you do. However, in this case I suspect the think end of the wedge, and that the main concern is about enhancing property values rather than of safety and the wider public interest.

"whatever their colour"??? what do you mean by that edmummy??? strange thing to say. I suspect that EDmummy means their political colour (Tory = blue, Labour = red, Liberal Democrat = Orange). E.g. I will vote for the candidate who will deliver effective local services, regardless of their political colour. It a political term which has nothing to do with race, if that's what you were thinking.

"Did the Sea Cow open first in ED or Clapham, or are there other earlier branches elsewhere?" Clapham. I was invited to go there, but didn't make it and the next thing it had opened up here. I believe Clapham was the original branch, but there are also appear to have been branches in Stoke Newington and Fulham. The information on this website http://www.london-eating.co.uk/5969.htm was unexpected. And their own website http://www.theseacow.co.uk/ seems to only detail one shop, and that's the one on LL.

"Funnily enough, I think the councillors (for south camberwell) that are participating in the campaign for closure actually live on the Grove." I hope they declare their personal interest in this issue. "You'd thing the CG residents would be happy with that given that it should lead to less cars on the road." No, they won't be happy unless they get their way. They'll probably be wanting CG to become gated next, to keep out any riff raff. If closure goes ahead it will almost certainly be a class issue, as it hasn't happened anywhere else in the area (other than at Kings), but then other roads don't house the local MP and similar people.

"Ggggrrrrrrrr traffic lights. How do traffic lights REDUCE the volume?" They could only reduce the volume of traffic crossing the bridge at any one time, thus reducing the volume of traffic on the bridge at any one time. If they're not going to renew the bridge, and it can't be strengthened to take the previous weight of traffic, this seems like a sensible option. However, full closure to traffic is not an option as far I'm concerned, and it would be interesting to hear the views of the emergency services on such a proposal. As for being stuck with the car in the future, we are undoubtedly stuck with independent personal transport of some means or another, whether is will be cars in the future is anyone's guess.

"Yeah, what about him? Lord Haw Haw was a traitor. Hardly deserving of a blue plague is he Frisco." I think it's quite reasonable to identify where people of historical note lived, and not necessarily only do this with 'heroes'. History doesn't and shouldn't only refer to the good guys. However, my original posting was tongue in cheek, but it's useful to know who can't judge that kind of thing, isn't it Jah Lush? Also, what Domitianus wrote is correct.

Open it as soon as possible, there's no need at all for it to be closed. The only restrictions should be on vehicle width and weight.

What about Lord Haw Haw?

I recall research being undertaken at Dulwich Hospital into using pig kidneys in human transplants, which hit the newspaper headlines at the time. I later had to go there to see a consultant, but the memories of that aren't pleasant - it was a filthy hole and the clinic was chaotic. It also didn't help that I was misdiagnosed for 15 months and eventually had to spend a lot of money to get a correct diagnosis, privately.

Shouldn't this thread be lounged? HH and her celebrations are hardly ED specific. ;-P