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Have you got both sets of keys still? It's pretty impossible to open and start a modern car without them.

Tarmac it over and turn it into a rollerdisco. Sorry. Had a drink

I'm with mark. The fewer signs the better, for all road users.

I like those active signs. Especially the ones which 'smile' if you're under the limit. A good carrot, not stick, approach

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My wife felt sorry for them and gave them ?2 > without buying anything. Better they try and make > a crust this way than some other ways. If you > didn't see the ID how can you say it was dubious > as he was obviously unsuccessful in forcing it > into your face? Sorry, better that young lads knock you up at 9.45pm and hawk overpriced jeyes cloths at you, then hurl abuse when you politely say you're not interested? How would you feel if you were old or on your own? Please don't encourage this behaviour. It's been covered before on here and the general consensus, surprise, surprise, is that they're dodgy. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,11069,page=1 Edited to add link

For the second time this week we've be doorstepped by a youth selling tea towels and whatnots from a basket. Last Thursday at 9.45pm and just now. I politely said I'm not interested and, when he ignored this and tried to force his dubious ID in my face, I closed the door only to hear him reel off a tirade of abuse and peer through the frosted glass of our front door for a minute or so. They're working the roads off Lordship Lane, if you hear a knock at the door just now.

Shared Space is designed to lower limits, and make drivers/road users/pedestrians more aware of each other. After all, speeding accounts for only around 7% of accidents - most are caused by driver inattention, like talking on the phone or fiddling with a satnav. When the traffic lights failed at the top of Dog Kennel Hill once, it was impressive to see how everyone - pedestrians and motorists alike - used eye contact between each other to negotiate the junction safely and slowly.

Shared Space is the way forward. Works in the Netherlands and, anecdotally, in the UK too: http://www.hamilton-baillie.co.uk/index.php?do=projects

Isn't most of SE22 a 20mph zone anyway?

Sean: "If the roads are dangerous places it isn't because of these wardens" It is when they obstruct the mouth of a junction. It's an endorsable offence, like parking on the brow of a hill, or on zig-zags. Sean, this is not just about flaunting parking regs to ticket motorists, this is about dangerous parking. If a Saturday shopper parked where this car was parked and a fatal accident occured, you'd be one of the first in line calling for action. Parking in a loading bay/on a single yellow/permit zone to nab illegal parkers - cheeky, at worst hypocritical, but not the end of the world. Parking in a position which endangers other road users - illegal and dangerous. They aren't used for speeding BTW, it's purely parking enforcement. So any 'safety' argument is blown out the window, unless they're able to nab themselves. Plus, they leave the engine running to power their equipment. Aside from the environmental aspect, that's an offence too.

He's made himself available on this forum, and you can't argue with that.

@eye - I think this is just a parking camera. @puzzled - I've never received a PCN from Southwark and I've nothing against sensible parking control; there would be chaos otherwise. I do, however, have an issue with this do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do approach, especially when it makes the roads less safe.

The Southwark Parking spy-car is at it again today, on double yellow lines, obstructing the sightline left out of Hansler Road onto Lordship Lane. Highway Code Rule 243: "DO NOT stop or park near a school entrance anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space"

Really weak or no signal just off LL all week.

Derwent Grove was built around 1875.

They should be handing out Samurai swords, apparently: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7207005/Father-cleared-after-chopping-off-intruders-ear-with-Samurai-sword.html

Dunno. Would be even more alarming if they weren't known to the intruders though. By the lack of chit-chat on here about it, I suspect some of the earlier posters might be nearer the mark.

Poor Leno - Royksopp

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > coat hangers Agreed. Evil.

The police put a note through the door last night telling us that a group of young people had entered a house on Hansler Road and attacked the occupants. They told us not be alarmed, as these types of crime are very rare and that we should contact them if we saw anything. Alarming.

Would that include the double yellow lines at the corner of junctions? If so that would be classed as 'Leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position' with a police offence code of MS10 and three penalty points + fine. Cf the Southwark Parking camera car parked on the corner of Lordship and Hansler Road, blocking the left hand sightline for over an hour and with its engine running: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5001/carkz.jpg (Rehashed from 'inconsiderate council drivers' thread, so apologies if you've read this)

And the abuse of position goes on. Right on the junction of Lordship Lane and Hansler Road, one of Southwark Parking's Orwellian camera cars, parked on double-yellows, engine running, in a position blocking motorists' views left. This is a tricky sightline even when cars are parked legally and I suspect that if the police, or a civil (as opposed to council) traffic warden saw this you'd end up with endorsements. Outrageous. http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5001/carkz.th.jpg BTW, after over 30 mins, the car is still there, engine running. I think that's an offence too.

NickW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I feel sorry for the disadvantaged. Problems we > encounter in our society are because of all of us. >. Jeez. Just how patronising is that. You are everything that is wrong with East Dulwich etc.

Spend the money on installing a large one of these: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8461652.stm They're only made down the road too.

Loads of cops pouring out of four vans on the Camberwell New Road this morning, helmeted up and with battering rams. Some Southwark-wide operation? Or just south London in January?