Saila

Fuschia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ... i was just playing Fuschia - a joke about > my > > bad behaviour... deary me > > > > is there a link with bf and a sense of humour? > > hmmmmm... > > Usually I have quite a sense of humour but I am > getting thoroughly fed up with the way it seems to > be acceptable to make snide remarks at breast > feeders > > It's bad enough the formula companies spending > millions on advertising but I feel like they are > managing to get women to do their dirty work and > it's really depressing really? i stopped bf after 5 weeks (of hell) it had absolutely *nothing* to do with formula companies. Really nothing to do with them, tbh i hadn't even heard of 'SMA' or whatever the other ones are called. I assumed i'd bf, just as i was bf. I never took any notice of formula food adverts - i dont remember ever seeing any tbh. And i've not met anyone who 'failed', like i did, say it was anything to do with anything other than the various nightmares people had with tongue tie, latching on, hungry baby, weight loss etc etc Also, no one here is making snide comments about bfing mums - why on earth would they? But i think we have a right to have a pop at anyone that is militant with their views. It's just the british way at approaching annoying, self righteous people.

Fuschia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't know why you think that's funny sails > > Generally speaking I don't call other people nAmes > ... Gave it up when I was about 7 ... i was just playing Fuschia - a joke about my bad behaviour... deary me is there a link with bf and a sense of humour? hmmmmm...

'...Brestapo' *giggles - logs on to blog*

... I was bf and I'm particularly badly behaved!

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"I never took drugs in my 20s..." "I definitely want drugs during my labour... natural is sooo yesterday?"

slightly different idea - but if you're near-ish denmark hill or peckham rye, you could hop on the direct train (10mis?) to blackfriars and walk. that's what i do - it's a lovely walk from blackfriars, through fleet st and lincoln's inn fields.

Well if you work full time, demand feed 4 kids and still have time to research and educate us all here on the edf. Hats off to you.

... this article will get *some* people's backs up. Which unfortunately (as i know that wasn't what you intended) may be why it's 'turned into a debate'. It puts undue pressure on mothers (and dads) to persevere with the 'biological norm' and insinuates that night time wakings are what 'good' mothers (and dads) do. When the reality is it just means more and more people 'learn the hard way' and first time round - suffer - then they approach things more realistically the next time round. - Especially if the mother is working. My colleague at work is *still* waking many times a night cos they have basically trained their child to do this. Their daughter is now 2yrs old and he hasn't had a full nights sleep for two years. Not helped cos they live in a tiny house. No chat of more kids for them - not for a long time. They just wouldn't cope. i know that's not what youre saying directly but the article lends to this...

i read it - i was commenting on the assumption that this article began with. >"Your goal is to maximize sleep for everyone in the family, while respecting the needs of your child." ... my son needed a good night's sleep too.

....mums really feel under pressure to get their kids to sleep through cos theyre... 'supposed to'? really? we were thrilled once our son began to sleep through. We stopped being cranky and arguing over nothing. I personally felt like i got my life back. i could go to work refreshed. i felt happier. i wasn't walking around like a zombie etc Our son was noticeably happier too. sleep deprivation was very damaging to our family anyway - everyone's different i guess

Twirly Wrote: > > I am also curious as to how the current situation > with student tuition fees is going to affect the > housing market in years to come. If someone is > graduating at 21 with ?30-40k debt, has to pay it > off and then potentially save up another ?20k (or > more) to buy a property, then there is going to be > a scarcity of first time buyers. Unless they all > have rich mummies and daddies who will pay that > out for them of course. Personally, I suspect that > fewer people will chose to go to university and > there will be a contraction in that sector, but > that?s another issue. I was lucky enough to get my > degree in the days when there were still grants to > go to uni, and it still took me until my 30?s to > get on the property ladder. If I?d had the amount > of debt these kids are expecting, then I?m not > sure I?d ever have made it, particularly with the > cost of living in London. Immigration will play (and is currently playing) a big role in propping up the housing market Something the daily mail readers are clueless about so YES - by clamping down on immigration AND taking away home grown first time buyers...- doesn't bode well for property prices.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What Unions? I'm in UNITE and am one of only 2 > members in our department of over 200. If we get a period of consistently high inflation, labour work forces will rise and demand wage inflation. It's just basic economics. What name they call themsevles or what shape it will take is unpredictable. Apparently there's a factory in Durham who have gone on strike and demanded higher wages - but this is just something i heard from a slightly paranoid city guy who's very worried bout inflaiton. Medium term looks like stagflation? or is that short term... http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Biz-Briefing-Worst-Pay-skynews-2636462935.html?x=0 edit to include this link

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Polly D - completely agree That quote's been on a loop in my head cos it didn't sit well with me either - was a very odd thing to say... It's a tragedy - full stop. Had under tones of 'this shouldn't have happened to one of us' etc anyway -

great - many thanks for this

This isn't a new topic but after being left on my own, and in the wrong ward during the duration of my labour, it makes me think about 'next time'... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/british-maternity-wards-in-crisis-2261403.html I want to give birth in hospital and safety for my baby, followed by me is my personal priority. I dont care about anything else apart from a good outcome for both. I dont care how the baby arrives, just that he/she's safe and healthy. What are people doing about the shortages? I'm aware you get 1x1 care if you have a home birth, but for those who definitely want a hospital birth, how do we go into this feeling safe and well looked after? Has anyone used a private midwife? Are they accepted in local hospitals or shunned? what are people's experiences? If you have any private midwife/ doula recommendations, could you possibly post on this thread or pm me? thanks

SarahO I'm curious to know how you think people can help here? If feel that you are being seriously harassed then go to your local police station Or alternatively ignore it and walk on?

this guy came to my house last night too wasn't pushy - he was quite nice for random sales person i asked him how his company made their revenue he said that they booked commission from construction companies who would come round and fix asthetic or structural problems with a house scam or not, i dont know anyone who'd consider employing someone who randomly goes round people's houses on a friday night to drum up business... weirdo

>>Just to echo everyone's sentiment dummies are really useful. My two girls had them only for sleeping and it was very easy to get them to settle. Nothing to feel guilty about and certainly much easier to take away than a thumb! ditto to above i too use dummy for sleep only i think the key to get honest opinions from mums is to ask them wht they'd do with their next child and i wouldn't think twice about using a dummy next time round it means they just go *straight to sleep* no cries or even gurgles - a stress free life! :) we are very lucky and my son rarely wakes in the night, but if youre prone to that, one downside is you may find yourself up in the middle of the night to put a dummy in. I do this if i want my son to sleep in longer in the morning which i dont find difficult as it's not middle of night. However a friend of mine (whose kid wakes up at 1/2am) bought 10 dummies and puts them all around the cot! hilarious but it works apparenlty. Now her daughter just wakes up and settles herself upon finding a dummy. My son (15mnths) has started to throw his dummy out of his cot sometime during the night... so it' slike he's dropping it naturally maybe?

this sounds really useful - thanks very much reneet

there's a program about taking on council planning departments - about to begin on Channel 4, called Planning Outlaws

hello i have a 15mnth old son and i'm irrationally afraid of him running into the road (at any age) and being run over. That dreadful accident (thoughts are with the family) has made my anxieties come forward again what useful methods do people use to reinforce this message with their children? am i overly worried and once kids get to a certain age they generally understand about the dangers and i should relax more any helpful tips or advice? thanks in advance

used electric breast pump bt monitor wilkinet sling (all the time) bumbo bath seat grobags one of those portable high chairs - kept in car boot - brilliant never used: bugaboo - just didn't work for us, sling much easier manual pump - waste of time cat net - another complete waste of time tommee tippee baby monitor - really sht

I was speaking to my mum about this thread today, she said that once my brother came back from nursery saying "Goodness gracious".... she was too embarrassed to find out what he had said (repeated) in order for him to be taught this phrase...