PeckhamRose

This is a very interesting subject, some women who keep going to abusers - just SOME of them - are actually submissive in nature wanting Dominants. This is a huge subject, and a brave one to start. Oh wait - I have a play coming up touching on this very subject soon, so will advertise it here when there's a flier to post. But really, in my extensive research on the matter - some of the women who are in happy fulfilling consensual Dom/sub relationships floundered around before finding them by being attracted to abusers. Meanwhile, of course, there are also those men who prefer to be the submissive to the Dominant female. > of my old girl-friends in the past, stuck in an > exitless Hangar Lane Gyratory of varyingly > pathetic, bad, or often abusive relationships. As for Mr Paleologus - who wroteth - "Those of us with a face like a bag of spanners have had to work hard for whatever attention we get." I am sure we are not just talking ordinary spanners, but (lowers voice to sexy slow voice) a perfectly made, ordered by five, delivered by ten, ScrewFix Direct bag of spanners... > It's a self-image thing. I hate to sound like an > 2-bit American chat show host, but get some > respect for oneself and happiness can be found > with someone who respects err .. one.

Ggggrrrrrrrr traffic lights. How do traffic lights REDUCE the volume? We've seen this problem with Forest Hill Road! A roundabout surely would be better. > The council want it to open with traffic lights to > reduce the volume of traffic.

It's a Beautiful Life. I cry for how life could be. The Glenn Miller Story. The actress who played his wife, June Allyson, when she hears he's disappeared, and the flypast, I'm welling up as I write.

I say there's another issue. What about those of us - men AND women - who have no desire to have children and indeed have none - but how does that affect the mating needs / instincts when we never want kids. Still want sex tho. I remember talking to a mate years ago who said he wanted a family, and when we boiled him down to the basics, he admitted he never liked kids and that he was saying those things to please his bullying Dad, and actually marriage appealed only because it was assumed he would get regular sex. Instincts have a lot to answer for! I look forward to reading folks' thoughts on the original posting.

A Soldier's Poem. Muse. Sniff...

Yes, a bike shop. I assume you mean motorbike shop, right? :) I went up Marylebone High Street the other day and realise what Lordship Lane DESPARATELY needs is a White Company shop, it would fit right in. And something like a poncy "Stitches and Daughters" type shop. I totally agree with the poster above who said about cheap kitchen items not lasting long. Definitely buy expensive well made classic stuff from the likes of Peter Jones and it will last a lifetime, the same can be said of good clothes. Mine, anyway..... I LOATHE shopping! Alan Dale mentioned Boots. Yes I quite like Boots certainly over Superdrug but the some of the staff in the Peckham branches of both could not BE ruder IMHO. And freecycle is wonderful - I just got a fax machine off it for free and gave away lots too. Hell, what with that and ebay do we really need shops at all? Oh wait, yeah - when the post strikes happen!

It's in me diary. Across the park from me. Work allowing, I look forward to meeting you all.

Had it anything to do with fireworks in the bins going off too?

We're trying to eat less red meat also, so fish and chicken is main thing. PASTA TUNA THING This evening found a recipe in an old Dairy Diary Recipe Book and here it is with my additions. Drink some gin and tonic. Then - fry an onion - pour half pint of veg stock in and enough peas and/or sweetcorn for 4 people in the pan, have another swig of gin and some chocolate maybe, then bung a tablespoon of cornflour mixed with half pint of milk and bung it all in the same pan with a small can of drained tuna. Drink gin. Heat and Stir the whole lot well till thick and creamy. Then bung in the now cooked pasta which you had put on at the beginning of the exercise to cook for 10 or so minutes. Stir the whole lot and it makes enough for about 3 or four, top with grated cheese. I thank you. Hic.

What the blinking flip does "Peckham trouble" mean? Oh wait, sorry - everyone who lives in Peckham is all the same bad lot? NO-ONE ever did anything wrong who lives in ED? Isn't there another topic of this forum talking about kids bullying/hassling/threatening in ED? Explain. Not sure we want such snobs living here.... As for feeling safe - isn't that a state of mind attitude? Trust me - it can be just as threatening and frightening in the nicest parts of Chelsea and Eton Square. (I remember a documentary on TV interviewing lots of women driving their 4x4s being asked why they chose those cars and they said they felt "safer". What - did Cortinas never have locks?) The perception of fear of being attacked and mugged is ruling people's minds and hearts. If you look frightened you're more of a target. I hope you find a wonderful new home wherever you choose to live (and don't see it just as a potential money-earner). > What does everyone think of that area? Does it > have Peckham trouble?

The problem with deciding on going to a pub that has a large outside area for smokers is that you will divide the group possibly. I mean, maybe it will just be everyone outside except, who gets ill around smoke. I recommended the Clockhouse above, their food - to quote a character in a Peckhambased TV series - "just keeps getting better and better". :)

So when and where's the next one? Hope I can go to it. I vote Clock house.

To get you fit and not fat, you could cycle ALL the way to Nunhead for your fish at Sopers and your bread and cakes at Ayres. I HATE the idea of these chain stores (stores that sell chains? Back to the sex shop thread again?) like M&S and John Lewis and the like coming to ED. That's what you have busses for, to take you to Central London. Anyway, you can always buy on line and support the post office at the same time; they need the business....

Level 42 The song about saying goodbye and leaving, gets me. Can't remember the title. Cat Stevens Wild World And when I was a baby I always cried when Mum played a song bby the Andrew Sisters called I'll be with you in Apple Blossom Time. When Spinal Tap came out Chris Guest explained that Lick My Love Pump was written in A minor, quite the saddest key. That makes sense. I think Apple Blossom Time is in A minor. Could be wrong tho. Maybe it made me cry as a baby because my Mum held me in her arms and squeezed me as SHE cried. XTC Dictionary Song Billy Joel Honesty Muse - poem for soldiers sniff sniff

Youngs Double Chocolate Stout (bottle) Dogbolter (RIP Firkin Brewery) Mackeson Stout Mmmmmmmmmmmmm beeerrrrrrr

I agree about USA - they hear the accent and come over to me in the shops or restaurants and just want to hear you - assume we're all highly intelligent educated people. And many times specially in the west people come up and beg me to believe that they hate Bush and did not vote him in and disagree with the war. Complete strangers being so friendly and wanting to tell you this. New Zealand is incredibly friendly too. Such a laid back culture. Interesting to read your thoughts on our European cousins though too.

Oh there are plenty of other examples, I was just starting a ball rolling but it's hit another traffic angering roadhump! (They dont calm traffic!) Of COURSE one can rip the plastic bits out of envelopes, and I do. But they're more expensive and they put stickers on top of the envelopes a lot of the time anyway. And we do need to attract good talent in a competitive market but the quality of some of the staffe beggars belief. Sheer stupidity seems to be a necessary quality to get jobs there. One of the housing officers at Bournemouth Road recently told me that Kim Humphries has changed things so that a qualified experienced housing officer now can't even raise repairs on anything. And none of the workers are allowed to personalise their offices. I had to go to registry office recently and the officers aren't allowed to put pictures on the walls or photos on their desks. It's awful. Why would anyone want to work in those circumstances. So those that put up with it deserve respect of course. But so many of their colleagues are really - well - incompetant. Yeah - Southwark Life! There's even a magazine called SE15 - what a waste. So untruthful. But like Notting Hill the film was about Notting Hill. Totally unrealistic about Notting Hill!! Back to bed.. back to reality. Who wrote that?

Aha Boosboss! I just started a thread in the Lounge as I got the papers today too. My thread's more about examples of money-wasting by Southwark Council. Anyway, my opinions are about the cycle lane proposal is that as a pedestrian I don't like sharing lanes with cyclists anymore than I do with cars. Cyclists are often arrogant as car drivers are. (No, not all of you!) I said that I think the existing pavement should be widened. Their wording was very unclear. I hate multiple choice questions but it makes passing exams easier...

Send us your examples. Here's a few of mine: 1) They bang on about recycling but send you your communications in window envelopes which they say they can't recycle. 2) They sent me consultation papers asking for opinions on a cycle lane on the SE15 east side of Peckham Rye 4 years ago. Must have cost them a lot to ask people's opinions when they probably had their minds set anyway, but guess what. Nothing happened anyway. Today got sent another set of consultation papers and they said that last time nothing happened because they ran out of money. a) wouldn't it be best to send out consultation papers AFTER they're sure they have the money and b) maybe the cost of sending out consultation papers is WHy they ran out of money. 3) They have built a whole load of well built garages on our estate but have done nothing to advertise them for rent at ?9.38 a week each. Call Jason Huggins on 020 7525 5000 (yes, call centre) and ask him if you're interested. Your turn.

Not sure if to put this in the fun Consultation topic or start a new one, but here goes. I won an award for my nomination of Clockhouse for its Flowers in Bloom entry. That is to say - Southwark Council have a Flowers in Bloom competition or some such thing and I nominated the Clock house and it won and I won something for my nomination. Yeah - think that's what it was. So I visited Laurence at Clockhouse and told him. He had not actually been told he had won the award. Southwark sent ME, the nominator, his award for his pub. So I hope we can be sure the winner of the best bar will actually be told they've won. Not if Southwark Council have anything to do with it. Sometimes some of these topics do overlap. I'm just about to start one about cycle lanes and more wasted Southwark Council money.....

Ooooooooooh yes, silly me. I was looking for one word without the indefinite article. Only not see what you want to not see! The food is fabulous. The chef is Morrocan apparently. (I always love the food there!)

Clockhouse. It's got an SE22 postcode so that makes it East Dulwich. It's a pub. not a bar though. But in the pub there is a bar. And Laurence the new landlord is gorgeous. Has to be said. So please include that as I am not voting for any others. So there.

I walk or bike down Lordship Lane on Saturday evenings after work sometimes and on the surface it has a buzzy atmosphere. No violent thuggy looking gangs, and just everyone outside the expensive eateries and pubs. They're outside because they can't smoke inside. They all sound like the soundtrack of the advert Joanna Lumley does for that insurance company "...or maybe half of Yorkshire..." Then I ride down Peckham and it's a different class of people on different incomes having their fun but the noise is from the cars. But it's very different atmosphere. Deliberately so too. I may not be in danger but I am not welcome. So I go home for a cup of tea and a sherry and watch Casualty.

It's called le chandelier. Not "EcoUnFriendlyCheapoLightbulb". Isn't that a clue?

Ahh - sorry. :(