zeban

'Poverty and hardship do not make criminals, in my view parents have a lot to do with this.'- I absolutely completely agree with you lindylou. Me and all of my siblings grew up in poverty and went without a lot and were brought up by my Mum alone- there are 5 of us- 1 boy and 4 girls. Not one of us have ever ever turned to crime or even entertained the thought of it. We were brought up better than that and are all doing well in life, and funnily enough are really not obsessed with money the way that a lot of people in London seem to be- rich or poor. You sound like an amazing mother lindylou and there are definitely a lot of parents that I'm sure could learn from you. And bloonoo are you seriously naive enough to think that it has to take someone to tell you something has happened before you realise that walking around chatting on your brand new phone isn't the best idea. Where's your commonsense? And no this isn't just a London thing- it's common sense. The only country I've ever been to where you're very unlikely to get your phone stolen is Japan. There are opportunists everywhere. A buglary is different. And you were appealing for information. People posting their muggings on here don't seem to be appealing for information.

It's Rocca. Roka is a Japanese restaurant in Charlotte Street. Rocca is an Italian restaurant. There's already a thread on here about it. I'll see if I can find it for you.

I think he's a disgusting, disgraceful, and shameful man and I say good riddance. There is NO excuse for what he said. Anyone who can make the comments he did, whether drunk or not, does not deserve a high-flying job or the kudos that goes with it. Men like himself think they're untouchable because they're head of the brand but the truth is designers work with huge teams they're not some kind of lone artist/'maverick'. I'm sure there are loads of designers who are just as good as him and could do just as good a job at Dior and deserve it far more. I applaud Dior taking the action it did. And he didn't even say sorry he bloody well try to deny it so he's a cowardly liar as well. Then the video came out. You can't set someone up for saying what he did and he spoke in English because he is originally English which is even more shameful.

I honestly think they're just being reported on the forum more. I was thinking about this last night and whilst it is awful for this to happen to a person I can't help wondering what the point is of reporting on the forum. especially as the descriptions of the people are little more than their age and ethnicity. I think in the end it's just scaring people. We all know these things happen but we just have to try and use our instincts and common sense rather than allow the reportings to make us scared and nervous to get on with our lives. I think really the only people that these crimes should be reported to are the police.

Definitely fly. Unless you actually wanted to make Paris part of your trip. Then that's a bit different. Getting the train from one part of Spain to another would be great but your route just seems too long a journey and so not really worth it IMO.

Let it go. It's ?2

I'm with Rhubarb&Custard on this. I think that's why elderflower mentioned that this thread is better suited to mumsnet!

I'm with Huguenot all the way minkturtle. IMO you're writing off children being able to relate to, connect to, feel inspired by, and understand ideas just because their writing skills aren't up to scratch. How sad for those pupils that their teachers feel that way about them.

Just to add, I'm just around the corner from the 63 bus- stop The Gardens

Elderflower this is the ED forum, stick to your own ;-)

Well I know if it was a choice between the two men MrTwirly wins every time (tu)

Just echoing the last three posts. What a ridiculous thing to say and think EDOliver.

minkturtle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think you guys are quite getting what I'm > saying. Have you any experience of education > beyond Dido and Spooks? I don't understand this question. I do know I went to an ordinary state school secondary school, we studied Macbeth, I went onto do A levels, I studied King Lear and Hamlet. Hamlet has now become my favourite play and I went on to study English Literature at very good Uni. I don't understand why on earth children of secondary school level are unable to write basic sentences as you say? If that's the case then the education system and their parents have let them down surely. Maybe it was this that has made you feel cynical towards literature such as Shakespeare?

I coletely agree with the above post. So lovely Pebbles

I reckon then the Honor Oak train sounds like a really good option, and the good thing is you can check the time it takes online and time it to get the train you want. Let me know how it goes Zeban

Has anyone that has posted above ever done this journey??? This is absolutely the best way to get to Islington. My sister lives on Upper St and I visit her almost every week doing this exact journey- 63 to Mount Pleasant where you'ld pick up the 19 to Upper St. It takes about 40-45mins. The only thing I can think of that might make it a bit slower is the time of day but in general you've missed rush hour so you'll be absolutely fine. You could give it slightly longer but the 63 is a fab bus route. Trust me, I've done it a million times.

I'm with Huguenot about Shakespeare. Shakespeare isn't about reading at all. There is so so much in Shakespeare, so many levels, so many ways to connect with it on a human, moral, philosophical level. And what is literature if it is not supposed to do this? Shakespeare should always be taught in my opinion.

I was also going to pull you up Quids on being patronising, there really isn't any need for it.

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I agree with every single word of the above post Sean

I don't think it's just work that can give Mums a sense of self esteem and purpose other than just being a care giver. My Mum was a stay at home Mum but she also studied a part time degree which took her 6 years to complete, and did a lot of voluntary work which is actually often a lot more satisfying than an awful lot of paid work! By the time she went back to work she ended up doing something completely different to before. I guess it's different if you really enjoyed your job before and don't want to let go, but if you're happy to try something else it might be easier to go back into the work force because changing careers is a bit like starting again anyway. And we are becoming a bit more flexible with the idea of 'careers' these days- ie. there aren't as many people staying in the same industry all of their lives now. The career ladder is abit more about moving sideways as opposed to the traditional 'up'.

Asset Wrote: > With regard to this massive national debt - who > exactly is it owed to and what would happen if the > country just defaulted on the debt? What would > happen? I've wondered that too Asset

Me too! And I agree about East Dulwich. I've lived in a lot of areas of London and East Dulwich is the only area where I've felt a real sense of community which I'm also proud of, and on a personal level really grateful for.

No offence Reneet, I'm genuinely curious, if you were working for a promotion for a year and you really want to hang onto your lifestyle why did you choose to have another child right now? I'm not criticising your decision I'm just saying it sounds a bit contradictory to what you seem to actually want at this moment in time. Personally I think it is working practices and attitudes that need to change to allow for flexible working hours for BOTH parents in general in the early years. And to do away with women having to re-enter the workforce at a lower level which often happens when women have taken time out to bring up children. There shouldn't be such a worry about taking time out. I certainly don't think that such a pessimistic view of there never being equality until men can give birth and breastfeed is useful. Men and women are different- is that so bad? I think it's a wonderful, powerful thing that we as women can do. Men have been jealous of the fact that women can give birth for centuries- it's why I think alot of misogyny arose in the first place IMO. They had to turn it around to seem like a negative thing. I also think what it is that makes you feel successful in your career is very telling of society as a whole Reenet. Society generally measures a persons success in terms of status and money which seems to be your definition too. That's one of my problems though with society. I think it is unfair on everyone, both men and women, to have such a narrow definition of what it is to be a success. Some women and men don't even feel empowered at all in work. And there are some Mums dying to go part time or give up work but genuinely can't afford to. Ultimately I think it would be good if everyone got their way!

It's definitely society that needs to change but I think you can probably try to sow the seeds at the same time.