Earl Aelfheah

We always hear these arguements whenever anyone suggests measures to tackle issues with motor traffic. Yet we have seen some massive successes in London. Around 70% of traffic going over Blackfriars bridge during rush hour is now people travelling on bikes, as a result of re-allocating a small amount of space for a segregated bike lane for example. It is equivalent to the number of people carried by 64 full double-decker buses. There isn't the capacity to shift this many people in single occupancy vehicles even if you wanted to. The point is that we have limited space and we give the vast majority (around 80%)of it over to a very inefficient and damaging (albeit occasionally necessary) form of transport. Every time we try to re-balance the use of this scarce resource, we're told that it'll lead to gridlock. But this is almost never the reality once these schemes are introduced. I think it's worth experimenting a little. Something has to change if we're going to tackle climate change, local air pollution and the scandal of thousands of road accidents every year in London. Most people in Southwark don't own a car and so might reasonably question why so much of the public realm is organised around a minority activity with such damaging impacts.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > That traffic will go somewhere - it won't just > magically disappear I predict that quite a lot of it will disappear actually. That's certainly what's been found when other, similar schemes have been introduced. I am a car driver by the way, but recognise that the current situation is unsustainable and that we need change.

The reality of all of this, is that we give huge amounts of public space over to (often single occupancy) motor vehicles. It's totally disproportionate and needs rebalancing in favour of pedestrians and cyclists.

Reading above, it sounds as thought Goose Green has school street closures also. As I say, it seems like a bit of a no-brainer to me.

slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It's hard to argue against road closures around > schools at opening / closing time imo. Can't > > really understand why this isn't standard > practice tbh. > > Are you suggesting that, as part of this "standard > practise", Dulwich Village, East Dulwich Grove, > Red Post Hill and Lordship Lane should all be > closed during school opneing and closing hours? Some of those schools (Harris Primary for example) already do. Not Lordship Lane, but the road on the other side is closed to traffic as part of the School Streets programme. I don't know about the others, but certainly they could.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am assuming that the few existing shops and > restaurants in Dulwich will be able to continue to > survive with only Dulwich resident custom, because > the chance of visitors to Dulwich is being > extinguished by these proposals. I suspect they do pretty much do now. Who drives to the Village to eat? There's nowhere to park anyway.

It's hard to argue against road closures around schools at opening / closing time imo. Can't really understand why this isn't standard practice tbh.

I quite like the memory foam mattresses, but they are quite hot. I previously had a really good quality, pocket sprung mattress but it was too firm for me. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer on this. It's all about finding the best one for you (sorry, not that helpful).

A few ideas: Remove speed bumps to improve air quality and actually start to police bad / dangerous driving Close roads to cars Provide segregated cycle lanes, linking with train and tube stations Work with hire bike providers to introduce them to our area Improve links between Ed and Brixton tube with more buses Stop granting permission for front gardens to be turned into car storage Stop granting permission for cars and vans to drive across the pavements with the installations of drop curbs (they already take up too much space, they really don't need the pavement as well) Stop privatising huge areas of public space for reserved car storage through CPZ schemes Tax the hell out of SUVs But I predict we'll just get more front gardens paved, more drop curbs installed, higher car ownership, more speed bumps, few improvements to public transport.

Sometimes you just have an instinct that something isn't quite right. So I'm not judging the OP and my comment wasn't directly addressed to them. I just find the climate of suspicion generally, a bit sad.

^this is what we will see over the next several months. More effort will go into framing the narrative around whose to blame for the fallout than actually trying to negotiate a deal to avoid it.

Already there are attempts to blame EU for all the impending and quite predicable fallout of Brexit. See https://news.sky.com/story/more-customs-checks-will-be-eus-fault-foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-suggests-11924538 and...

Did anyone call the police?

macutd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > this is a really difficult situation and I feel > very cautious about writing anything. But it seems > very sad that an adult is seen as a pervert if > they are standing near children playing. This. Perhaps he's enjoying watching the kids play in an entirely innocent way. The assumption that there must be some sort of perverted sexual motive is just so sad.

The brextwats have started letting off bangers. Ffs

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > stepdown Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > DulwichFox Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Since then, if there has been a conflict > between > > national law and European law the UK courts > have > > to give priority to European law. > > > > Everybody in this thread understands that, the > > question you are unable or unwilling to engage > > with is which laws or conflicts specifically > were > > unacceptable to you. > > As I said there are over 4,200 of them. > I do not know what those laws are or how they > affect us .... and that's the problem You can find a list of all those laws 'forced on us' here: https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rationalist-destroys-leavers-with-list-of-all-eu-laws-that-have-been-forced-on-us-against-our-will/22/01/#.XjQjpPs_reg.twitter Take your time.

It would be good to see some more carrot at the same time as we disincentive car use. More buses to Brixton, improved train services and please Southwark, some bike hire schemes - Boris, Lime etc. (they're everywhere else in the Capital).

rollflick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah & Monkey > The council does not have the staff capacity to > consult and deliver on large parts of the borough > all at once and is also busy doing lots elsewhere, > e.g. around Rotherhithe. Separate plans are being > brought forward for the Lordship Lane area in a > few months: > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHo > me.aspx?IId=50021892&Opt=0 > > The main thing is to get strong support for this > ambitious Dulwich scheme so that officers and > councillors get used to proposing, supporting and > delivering effective schemes - rather than just > surveys and studies that lead simply to (cycle) > symbols painted on rat runs. That sadly seems to > be the situation still in the Bellenden area. Thanks Rollflick, that's good to know. Like I say, I'm in favour of this scheme and would definitely support something similar in ED.

Will push a lot more traffic down East Dulwich grove and past the new school. Slightly concerned that this will improve air quality in the village at the expense of the greater number of people living in ED. Don?t get me wrong, I think they?re good plans, but would be good to have an area wide plan that includes East Dulwich

These don't look like bad plans to be honest. Would like to see something similar for ED though.

That's a real shame. I must admit, I hadn't been here for a while, but it was one of the originals.

kck Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The number of muggings is much higher than it used > to be. How many adults would be happy to be mugged > regularly. My son cycles to school and so far he > has been mugged once (flat tyre) and nearly mugged > by someone attempting to follow him into the > house. His 6 foot friend has been mugged.Another > boy lives a few hundred yards from school and he > got mugged. Southwark is keen to increase walking > and cycling to school. This increase in muggings > is a real deterrent. The solution is pretty > simple...more ?bobbies on the beat?. Perhaps they > could have used the money wasted on making the > junction in Dulwich village just as bad but in a > different way on the police. Central government cuts have led to a significant decrease in police numbers unfortunately. With a majority Conservative government and more brexit fuelled austerity, I wouldn't hold your breath for more 'bobbies on the beat' any time soon.

The library

Thanks for the post, it's good advice. Awful that kids should have to be dealing with such stuff.

janehuntglass Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...Don't want to count any chickens, but the > yellow signs all along the north end of Lyndhurst > Way seem to suggest resurfacing might happen next > week... (whoop!) That would be great. That section of road is terrible.