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Just like the Green Belt private land can still be MOL e.g. Alleyns' school field. Classification here http://www.london.gov.uk/thelondonplan/policies/3d-10.jsp The club is OS130 as per this paper http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10240/cdi16_open_spaces_strategy More detail on Other Open Space policy here http://www.southwark.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10254/cdl2_saved_southwark_plan In particular: "Policy 3.27 ? Other Open Space (OOS) Development on Other Open Space will only be permitted if it meets the following criteria: i. It is ancillary to the enjoyment of Other Open Space; and ii. It is small in scale; and iii. It does not detract from the prevailing openness of the site or from its character; and iv. It positively contributes to the setting and quality of the open space; and v. Where appropriate, it enhances public access to open spaces; or vi. Land of equivalent or better size and quality is secured within the local catchment area for similar or enhanced use before development commences, provided that this would not result in the creation of or an increase in district or local park deficiency as identified in Appendices 11 and 12. "
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@Milk76: this is exactly the point that I'm hoping to clarify. The "market rent" for the site depends on the value which depends on the alternative use. If the restrictive covenant is not overturned then this rent is quite possibly affordable for DHFC. Much as in the thread on the old hospital site, if the club has to compete with the potential value from housing development then clearly it's unaffordable. I would have thought the restrictive covenant is key here. So far as I understand it, only Green Dale is MOL, the site of DHFC is not. Is that right?
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Sennen - please can you tell me why will DHFC be more sustainable on a new site than on its existing site? What will change in its cashflows? I would like to understand why DHFC is unable to balance its books on its current site. thanks.
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Sites in central London for new secondary schools are few and far between. Starting off with a 'generous' amount of land for the secondary gives the school options for the next 20 years, including if relevant building another / more school. Every school I know has expanded in some way over the years. Just because right now we can't quite identify where else to put a (much smaller primary school), we shouldn't build a sub-standard secondary school. James - isn't the point about "price of land" independent of whether there is also a primary school on the site? I mean ?65m is ludicrous to start with. This is just a transfer of public sector assets from the [LEA] school sector to the [local health board] health sector - can't someone in central government intervene?
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this post http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,1229772,1346955#msg-1346955
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What was there before?
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Alleyns publishes its accounts online. http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends71/0001057971_AC_20130731_E_C.pdf In 2013, Alleyns saw a net increase in total funds last year of ?4.3m of which about ?0.7m is a pension gain, ?1.4m was unrealised gains on market value of investments and about ?1.3m was a Dulwich Estate Capital distribution. The schools seems to have received about ?3m from the Estate in total (note 3) and total bursaries were ?0.7m (note 2). Scholarships were an additional ?0.5m. Of the costs, ?0.7m is depreciation on land & buildings. ?0.25m spent on non-pupil catering. On cash, ?3.3m net operating cash inflow before ?1.3m of capex.
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Dulwich Estate - fit to run conservation?
mikeb replied to DulvilleRes's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Is it true that the Estate has stopped the Barclays having a cash machine on aesthetics grounds? -
James - entirely agree. There is a difficult balance to be struck between developing every plot of land and retaining something distinctive about the local area. But there is plenty of land to be redeveloped locally before the ground. Market rent for the ground if this could only be used as metropolitan open area should clearly be lower than for something that could otherwise be redeveloped for housing. If for some reason DHFC is not able to balance its books with rent on that basis then let's come back at that point. Hadley has taken a punt on buying this land in order to redevelop it. Fair play to them, though I don't have to feel sorry if the bet goes wrong. If it becomes clear that it cannot then Hadley should move on, probably selling the land for what it is worth as MOL (or selling / giving to the council or club). That said, Greendale is not currently being best used particularly the lack of access and the knackered astroturf.
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Gross household income (including benefits and tax credits) of ?40,000 for a household of 2 adults and 2 children seems to be between 4th and 5th decile (where 10th decile is top 10%). See p22: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/293738/budget_2014_distributional_analysis.pdf
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How is the bike?
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I wouldn't leave a good bike there regardless of locks. Any lock can be chopped with an angle-grinder. Also, lock your seat with a cable - very annoying to have to cycle home standing up the whole way.
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Streaming is divisive but it must be less so to stream within schools than between schools as with grammar schools - at least there is some contact between pupils. Also it must be easier to move between streams within a school than between schools. For my own benefit, in primary and secondary schools these days, is it common to have a "top set" class across all subjects, or is it still possible to be top set for maths, middle for English and bottom for [something else]?
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The Tribunal case of 2011 is very interesting and overturned a lot of law / guidance on these points. I haven't been through it all but it seems like they considered in detail many of the points people have been making here. full decision here: http://www.tribunals.gov.uk/financeandtax/Documents/decisions/1_TheISC_v_TheCharityCommission_forEnglandWales.pdf and an analysis of it here: http://www.radcliffechambers.com/media/Public_Benefit_-_Merged_handout.pdf Some selected quotes "165. It is reasonable to conclude that a merely token provision for those who could not pay full charges would not be sufficient to satisfy the public benefit requirement if otherwise it was not satisfied." "219. In our view, however, where facilities at what we might call the luxury end of education are in fact provided, it will be even more incumbent on the school to demonstrate a real level of public benefit. This is not to impose different standards on different schools; it is simply that where such luxury provision is made, a stringent examination of how it is provided and how the public benefit is satisfied is appropriate." "196. It is in this context of activities that indirect benefits and wider benefits (as described in paragraph 37 above) fall to be taken into account as part of the public benefit requirement. Many, and probably most although not all, schools of the type with which we are concerned provide benefits other than education to those who pay full fees. Those benefits include some or all of the following: a. provision of scholarships and bursaries; b. arrangements under which students from local state schools can attend classes in subjects not otherwise readily available to them; c. sharing of teachers or teaching facilities with local state schools; d. making available (whether on the internet or otherwise) teaching materials used in the school; e. making available to students of local state schools other facilities such as playing fields, sports halls, swimming pools or sports grounds; " "231. Thus it is said that private schools reduce the burden on local authorities; that is a benefit of which account should be taken. In principle, we think that approach must be right. But in point of fact, however, we do not think the point matters because the only wider benefit which has been identified is the reduction in the burden on local authorities to provide schooling for those attending private schools. For reasons already given (see paragraphs 206 to 208 above) we see this factor (a) of very little weight and (b) in any case very speculative."
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Sounds like VAT exemption could be reasonably material http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/CHARITIES/vat/intro.htm I think the trading profits would probably mean taxable profits, albeit there would be some future tax relief on the investments they make with those profits Not sure I would pay much heed to the historical point that these were charitable gifts - Alleyn's original gift predates the Civil War ...
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The Dulwich estate ? modern day reverse Robin Hood ?
mikeb replied to DadOf4's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
I think the relevant question is why are the private schools charities. I'm sure it would find it more difficult to maintain its own charitable status if the ultimate beneficiaries were not also charities. [edit: I don't have any data to support my assertion below that DC is unusual in providing 100% bursaries - it's just what I heard. For clarity, even if true, I don't think on its own that it's sufficient to establish that the schools "ought" to get charitable status] I believe Dulwich College is one of the few private schools that gives (a very small number of) 100% bursaries for select local kids that could not otherwise even consider private education. The schemes of many schools are discounts of 10-50%, and the residual fees are still too high for most. I don't know exactly how DC assesses your financial position nor the rate at which the bursaries are reduced. -
I'm always on the lookout for quiet local 10k routes. Here are some of mine * through Dulwich Village, up College Lane to Crystal Palace mast then along Sydenham Hill, Horniman Nature Trail, Dawson's Hill (optional extra leg up One Tree Hill) * Up Lordship Lane / Mount Adon to Dawson's Hill then along Woodvale / Westwood Park then One Tree Hill, back along the Rye then through Choumert Road to top of Dog Kennel Hill and back down Greendale * through Dulwich Park, Gallery Rd and Belair to West Dulwich, Rossendale Road, Brockwell Park, Ruskin Park, Greendale
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5 bars again now. Must have been something temporary this afternoon.
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Has something happened to Vodafone reception locally in the past couple of weeks? I've never had a problem but have come back from holiday to find that I have zero reception even on my Blackberry (which works just about anywhere in the country). I'm halfway along Lordship Lane. Mike
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Ford S-Max: 3 proper sears in the back, two more seats fold away behind and a decent boot. Not quite as much of a taxi as the Galaxy. Booster seats, toddler and baby seats in any / all of the three back seats and plenty of room for an adult plus any two of the above seats. Only bad point is no spare tyre, though that's increasingly common for lots of cars.
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Shortest route to the "countryside" on a bike?
mikeb replied to peleparso's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
AnMKing - I can't access the route but I'd love to know a good way to Box Hill other than through Mitcham and Cheam etc. -
I'm sure the Hadley guys are all perfectly nice people on a personal basis (at least for property developers) but I doubt they have any interest in the club whatsoever. If they have any sense, once they have profited by railroading through a major change in local environment and diminishing a local institution, they'll put the club into some sort of supporters' trust and walk away with millions. If the problem is that the land on Greendale is underutilised, reducing metropolitan open land by moving the club to a smaller site is not the solution.
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Sadness at changing atmosphere of East Dulwich
mikeb replied to vanstone's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Peckham Wry wins by a self-conscious whisker.
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