LadyDeliah

Lol, it's pretty good. I don't agree with it all, but it does have a lot of thought provoking stuff in there, honest!

Daniel has asked me to tell the man who called him on Saturday, to call or text him back because he has lost your number.

Thanks Frankito, I look forward to it. Hope you liked the film (I hope I managed to slip the politics past you! Lol)

The meeting in All Saints Church this evening was really fantastic. I am going to join the one to one mentoring scheme run by XLP Charity. They have done lots of work with getting kids out of gangs and helping them straighten their lives out. There was a huge turnout and lots of people who want to volunteer to help. It was inspiring and necessary for me to see, after all the right wing comments on here had made me really depressed. They seem to think the Community Law School thing might be a good idea and I will see if I can solidify it from an idea into something tangible. I really hope there are lawyers who would be willing to give up their time to teach law to kids who think the system is nothing to do with them. Anyway, if anyone wants to get involved in the mentoring scheme, they are always looking for volunteers. It's about giving a positive role model to a kid who may have never spoken to anyone who has raised their life above the most basic. Kids who grow up with no-one around them who have done anything positive in their lives, grow up believeing that these things are for other people and they cannot become one of the people who make a success of their lives. Contact with anyone who has done something worthwhile in their lives, can make a massive difference. Click on the link http://www.xlp.org.uk/ if you want to sign up to help.

Lol, Rich T, if youcan't beat them then I fear you will just have to join them!

There is a meeting in all Saints Church in Blenheim Road on ways forward for Peckham after the riots, in half an hour if anyone is interested.

My son used to work for Kickstart and one of the problems that he encountered was that his funding became reliant on bringing in active gang members and then spying on them. He felt this was wrong and after 5 years working for Kickstart, he quit. I am not sure if the same level of monitoring goes on now, but I would point blank refuse to accept any similar restraints so would be unlikely to get funding from traditional sources. I think the way forward would be to run the sessions on a voluntary basis and try to get youth organisations / churches etc to let us use their space for free. I do not want to get hijacked by the same systems that are failing our young people currently.

Yes, I think I might see what orgainsations are already out there though, rather than seek to re-invent the wheel.

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No Rick. I think you're the retard in this > particular scenario. If you understood my post > (and frankly, a moron like you, I'm not surprised > you didn't) you would see that I was suggesting > that far from being a homophobe, you actually have > quite an obsessive interest in other men's > bottoms. This is why I love the EDF!

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You seem to be very hung up on the homosexual act > of love, Rick. > > I'm thinking an index offence perhaps. This > gentleman doth protest too much. I think you may have hit that particular hammer, squarely on the head there Ms H!

I might use the stop and search laws to entice them in! I didn't have a lot of respect for the legal system before I studied law because politically I saw them as the same thing as the 'oppressive state'. But after studying law and reading the judgements from the former Law Lords, now Supreme Court Judges, I have serious resepect for them. They are on the whole, hugely intelligent and have at at times, been the last defence against creeping executive dictatorship. Before I studied law I assumed that having these out-of-touch, unelected judges making law was a bad thing. Now I think God for the fact they are there as a balance to the megalomaniacal tendancies of the past few governments. I was very disaffected because I did not feel like a stakeholder, and studying law has completely changed my perspective. I hope I can pass some of my enthusiasm onto other people who feel the system is broken and needs people to fight to fix it. But rather than through rioting, through the legal and political process.

Lol, come back to me after you have finished it and give me a proper video report, young man!

I really want to do something with the kids in Peckham. I am working for myself nowadays so have more free time and have always wanted to set up a community law school to teach law to people who are disenfranchised. I think now might be a good time for me to get started on this project, but it is still embryonic. I am hoping it could be some kind of National open source type charity to try to engage other lawyers in other areas of the country to do the same kind of thing I want to do. I was impressed with Hugo Chavez printing articles of the Venezualan constitution on bags of rice etc for poor people to learn about their rights and I think that would be part of what I want to do. I also think that empowering the voiceless to fight their issues through the legal system might go some way to averting the kind of frustration and anger that boiled over in the recent riots. I am hoping that it could lead to autonomous, community law schools and maybe even eventually community legal advice services encorporated into the schools. I would really appreciate any feedback on my idea from people. Would anyone else be interested? I think the crap education offered to kids in areas like Peckham needs some overhauling and I don't think the main organs of state are capable or willing to put in the effort to make changes. If people had an intellectual outlet, whether it's law or something else, I think it can only be a good thing. I like the idea of open classes that follow a GCSE curriculum, so they can drop in when they feel like it, or of they want to, get their bits of paper and maybe move onto higher level studying. With the education system in massive crisis, maybe there will be no choice but for outside agencies to start plugging the gaps. What say you oh, EDF braniacs?

Craig83 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OK - so you're admitting that (a) you live next > door to wrong doers (b) you've had you're car > vandalised and your garage broken into. Mmm... > wonder who did that? > > Likewise you please spare me the whole 'Elizabeth > Fry' routine. Just because you help people who > actively decide to go against the system it > doesn't mean you're respected by them enough for > them to spare them your house / car / garage. > > Once a stinking criminal, always a stinking > criminal ISN'T far off the mark. Explain exactly > how 'many' sort themselves out / go on to commit > unseen crimes that are never accounted for. > You've seen it on the TV - the skanks of this > country think everyone owes them something and > they'll take regardless or being caught or whether > they've already been caught What a charmer! One a mindless moron, always a mindless moron.

PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "East Dulwich Road, eh? So just a stone's throw > from the Tesco..." Loz wrote on page one. > Anyone else even trying to hide a snigger at this > faux pas? Total class!

And herein lies the problem. Well for hot-blooded hetro females of ED in anycase. Not so sure it's a problem for the wadge loving gay men.

Bankers don't actually create wealth though do they? They sell debt and move other people's money around, so the analogy with a footballer, who creates wealth for a football club, doesn't stand really.

Er, because they are the ones who make the laws in the first place!

Lol, it is long, sorry. Some good stuff towards the end too and a few nice ideas about scientific solutions to our problems, but I don't agree that there doesn't need to be a political structure. I'm a bit of a politics geek, so I would say that though anyway!

What is a wadge, and should we be concerned?

Yes, I agree. I don't like categories and labels of ideas. I like to take the bits I agree with and add it to my own mental map of the universe.

Glad you enjoyed it. Some of his solutions are a bit far out, but I thought it was an interesting film in anycase.

In the wake of the uprising and violence of the past week, I found myself becoming quite depressed by the extreme reaction of the 'normal' people to these extraordinary events. I am someone who likes to look for logical reasons for things and for workable solutions, so I think it is important to try understand the deeper causes of the unrest. is very interseting and goes some way, in my opinion to explain some of the issues in this complex issue., so I thought I'd sdhare it with the good folk of ED.

No-one gets out of the wrong side of my bed darling!

SS40, did you get out of the wrong side of someone's bed this morning?