LadyDeliah

Going to be worse tomorrow!

Lol, no it's miserable out if you ask me. Was better yesterday.

If Coulson gets it, I'm sure he'll grass the rest up!

The paps are back outside his house:

It's all unravelling!

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He'll be spending time at Her Maj's pleasure, > don't worry. I sincerely hope so and I have no objection to my taxes being spent on banging the lot of them up for a very long time!

Whoops, Hona, thanks for letting me know.

Lol, me too.

Not really, but maybe I should start one! "MPs have released a letter from a journalist jailed for phone hacking, alleging senior News of the World figures knew what was going on. Former royal editor Clive Goodman wrote the letter to News International as he appealed against his dismissal in 2007. Mr Goodman said hacking was "widely discussed" at editorial meetings until talk of it was banned by the editor." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14541848

I think the centralist notions of 'socialism' and/or communism just replaced one elite with another, so I don't want that model myself. I think increased local decision making and empowering people to run their little bit of the world might hold some of the answers. It's a bit too close to anarchism for most people though, and unlikely to be popular due to the (incorrect) association of anarchism with violence. If anyone thinks they have the answers, I'd run a mile, as I don't think any one-size-fits-all answer will work. Unlike Loz though, I do think this is the big crisis to end all crises of capitalism and the only way to get through will be grass roots co-operation and pulling together the talents of everyone. Not sure if we'll end up with a police state before that happens though. Hopefully not. My spelling is so rubbish - 3 edits so far!

True SJ, maybe this is a bit of a bollox way to address the issue after all! In any case, if the benefits are removed, then I think we may be one step closer to a revolution, so I change my mind - don't sign it!

I, as some of you may have guessed, inhabit the left of the political spectrum and am interested in whether capitalism has actually finally gone as far as it can. It seems to me to be in it's death throws and I am looking forward to being alive to witness a new social structure. This may be somewhat premature, but one can live in hope! of the problems with the current political/financial system by an academic named David Harvey.

Yes that was obvious, but it appears the extreme right wing have been drowning out the more moderately right wing opinions of late.

True, and why only London? lol Only one I could find and don't want to split the support by writing another one.

Another way the right try to sway public opinion is to pay people to join online forums and encourage the right wing hysteria. How many of the hang em and flog em posters joined just after the riots, posted prolifically and then dissolved back into the ether?

I think it's important to counter the right wing hysteria that erupted after the riots and I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the ability of the government to suspend or remove benefits. The usual way they get this kind of thing through is to whip up public support for it in exactly the way that we have witnessed the past week and bully politicians into voting for it be pointing out that they will lose votes if they vote against. That is why I think it is important for people who do not agree with the current agenda, to make their voices heard too, or we just get drowned out by the right wingers. Epetitions are just another way of counting votes really.

Removing the benefits from marginalised people will not make things better, in fact this could push the UK into becoming a more dangerous and divided country. If you agree that removing benefits is not the answer to the problems we have witnessed the past week, then please sign the petition below: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7925 Thank you

Swap some courgettes and squash for nectarines and apples?

Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass it on to Daniel and let you know as soon as anything is organised.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you know that the last thing that Walt Disney > wrote before he died was 'Kurt Russell'. He died > before he could explain it, and even Russell > claimed to have no clue. > > However, I think it's now apparent that Walt knew, > many years ago, that the only person to save us > from this social unrest was Snake Plissken, > aka....... Kurt Russell. > > ePetition anyone? Like!

I would second Emmaus, they are a really good charity. They are self-financing and do brilliant things with homeless people and their hostels are fantastic. They believe that useful work will help you overcome your problems and everyone who lives in the hostel works in the hostel and for the charity. Their 'companions' as they are called all do amazingly after they live in the Emmaus community for a while. They have massive waiting lists for spaces, so any help they get would help provide more funding for more places. They are one of my favourite homeless charities (I like Shelter from the Storm in North London too).

I also echo what Peckhamgatecrasher said, email the Peckham Settlement people on [email protected] if you want to help in some way as they are helping to co-ordinate all the disparate groups.

I think both Jeremy. I only managed to get my law degree because I found law fascinating and was passionate about the subjects I studied. There are lots of ways to educate people, but I think kids who are not interested in more traditional education can come to love studying if they have their interest sparked and it has some relevance to their every day lives. I think to spark an initial interest it would probably have to cover stop and search, some of the criminal laws etc that they see every day. Then I could maybe get them interseted in constitutional law and how the whole legal system fits into the wider scheme of things, so show them that there are ways of fighting injustice if you really want to, without resorting to violence. Some of the best lawyers I have ever seen are tenacious and fearless so I wonder if this might be a way of chanelling the same attributes in the disenfranchised youths. They don't need to become barristers or solicitors to benefit from some legal education, I think it helps with all round critical thinking and finding alternative ways of doing things.

Lol, no I think series 2 is a different murder.

I think Peckham Settlement are co-ordinating the elists etc. Is that email their one?