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Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But sadly, that glimpse of a fleeting deluded > dream can reverberate through the rest of their > lives and lead them to some sort of expectation of > fame and fortune without them actually having to > be a valid member of society. > This in turn leads to depression and torpor and > .....oh my god.... I'm giving too much away "Minipops" you have a lot to answer for!

Does this mean the No-drink-vember that my liver had been promised a repeat of has been and gone already? Is this something to do with those bastards at the Julian calendar again? *Sips a nicely chilled, Ch?teau de Durette, C?te de Brouilly 2009 and ponders the imminent turning back of the clocks.

speed BUMP

Ted Max Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SF - To answer your first question - because I'd > like to know how someone with no official mandate > has been attempting to influence government > policy, and also if that lobbying had any effect. Yep. Can't help feeling that, in the past, in a small way, a cosmetic way, maybe in an insignificant "this'll please-him/shut-him-up" kinda way, that this has happened and has now become the main reason for the secrecy. And I'm quite sure that Her Maj asking why Abu Hamza had not been deported and then him being deported after years of not being deported was a coincidental matter of timing. Rumours that a letter complaining of "She got rid of Cpt Hook so can I keep the geek?" were influential in the McKinnon case are, apparently, unfounded.

AM: I'm still using them because I've learned to duck - no, look, I replace them when they start to dim (about 6 months) which seems to have solved the problem (pre-empts their neurotic/temperamental demise) until I run out. After that it's back to the whale oil.

ok who had 'game postponed' at 10/1? No, wait, the stadium had a roof... who had 'game postponed' at 50/1?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not sure that the rest of England needed to > 'up their game' in Carroll's absence, it's not > like he's ever been an automatic first choice > striker, like Shearer. The position alongside > Rooney has been up for grabs for a while, in time > I expect Welbeck will fill the role, with Carroll > a Plan B option a la Crouch... Yeah I didn't mean England - the 'up their game' thing was just about WH and to repudiate the idea that they only play the long ball option - they don't but they have it in their arsenal (doh) and I think it's the reason Jarvis was bought. I do think though that England are in danger of becoming one dimensional the other way - like a poor man's barca swansea.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > maxxi Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ...tell Lennon and Ox-C to put in the > > crosses and bring Carroll on to head them in. > > Glad to see you're succumbing to the new West Ham > way... > > ETA Typo Unlike England, when Carroll was out injured the rest of the team upped their game knowing that when he was fit BFS would go route 1 a lot of the time (not always surprisingly) and they might be sidelined. I just wonder whether Hodgson can sacrifice his vision (blurred and myopic though it is) of England as a passing side (even if there's too much bloody passing) in favour of Carroll's robust approach - I think to be successful he has to be able to play both ways. You're right about it being one of the West Ham ways - did you never see Hurst's first goal in the '66 final? The long free kick floated in by Moore onto his head?

He'll need Wellbeck to dive for a penalty if thigs are tight. The interesting thing will be whether, if England look ineffective again, he will abandon the idea of passing the ball into the net via the crowded midfield and tell Lennon and Ox-C to put in the crosses and bring Carroll on to head them in.

Annette Curtain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like Prisoner Cell Block H myself. > > I miss that one. How is the parole* going? *Bea sends hugs.

True HMB but it WAS a 'qualified' extension "a 49 year old that has looked after himself", so maybe t-e-d's self-confessed 'senior-moment' has made him a borderline case at best.

aquarius moon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Can't compare it to 'Lost' or 'Prison Break' as I > didn't watch either, so not sure what you mean > Maxxi. I watched them in the very early stages before seeing what was happening - and what is happening in Homeland. The tv co. realises it has a good idea and decides to spin it out as long as it can, over as many series as it can, without ultimately resolving anything until it dies on its arse - then resolutions all round and a get-out clause in the final plot-line to allow for resurrection and/spin-offs. I may be wrong and that rumours of D Lewis siging a five-year contract to keep playing Brody and that season 3 is being developed atm are just rumours but it looks like it's settling in for the long run.

well it's better than the laughable Hunted but brilliant? I think it's already showing signs of "Lost" - "Prison Break" - itis.

I got a box full of the kind sponsored by British Gas when they were 15p ea in Somerfield/co-op some years back. Philips 11w (60w light) they were/are supposed to last 10 years - they don't last 10 years... and they sometimes explode when they die and if they just die you can't throw them in the bin - they have to be disposed of as a type of hazardous waste. When you replace them you realise how much they had dimmed by how bright the replacement is. When they're all used up I am going back to oil lamps... now if I could just get my hands on a whale...

Don't be tempted to leave out dog/cat food - that's a sure-fire way of arousing your local fox's interest in your garden.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Boys don't have a 'coming of age' moment when they > realise they can now procreate, and so don't > reassess their existence in that context. Not even during one of those "it's mine and I'll wash it as fast as I like" moments when a once clear and insipid fluid begins to take on an altogether more robust consistency? Or, to be a little less gross, when one was thrown out of the choir and could parade through the showers after PE without strategically held soap? No, I know - these might signify the onset of puberty but boys don't reassess their existence - except in terms of believing they might now be able to score and that they hope to find out what they're supposed to do before that happens.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- "I hate you, I want sweets, don't > want to eat that". aka the UKIP manifesto

utterly

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm against everything. Ah, that'll be a slice of seed cake and a paper cup of tart riesling then...

NomDePlume Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Christmas despite popular (dis)belief is for > Christians and not a subject for rhetoric and > ridicule, But rhetoric and ridicule, with a hefty dose of science and logic if one is in the mood, are the only approproate reponses to Christianity per se. *Stop it, stop it, yule only annoy the god botherers

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not to be picky EP, but if you want to use that > post again, I'd avoid "... moralism, immorality... > " as the latter is a subset of the former. It's an > Unnecessary Word. Possibly a subset but disagree it's unnecessary - moralists and the immoral are two separate groups - each posing a different problem in society and neither fitting into a morality we would all be happy with. If you wanted to get pedantic on EP's ass you might have chosen greed and avarice as being an egg too many in the batter.

Ha! England need a goal to get going so Wellbeck goes down... again. There was contact and yes it was a pen but even Owen might have been a little ashamed of that one. Still now they're off and running so it's alright. They'll get the hatful now and the first half hour will be forgotten. Until they get slaughtered by a team that can play.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > maxxi, stay on topic, there's another thread for > Friday night dahn the Lane... You're right... make it a can of Colt45 and ten No.6... ah go on, gi's a barley wine and blackcurrant chaser.

Usual timid and clueless 1st 20 minutes for England. Looks like Uncle Roy has told them they're not allowed to score unless they take it right through the middle and make 17 passes first. Against a better side (like Bury for example) they'd be in trouble. Maybe it's the fact that San M. have a (4th div Italian league) pro in their ranks. I know they'll go on to win by a hatful but this is unimaginative and even looking a little panicky.