Otta

I heard one of the hooligans on the radio yesterday, proud as punch. It's like some sort of battle for them, they were going on about how 200 of them chased of thousands of England fans, and England fans don't know how to fight. By all accounts they're all in to "straight edge" (no booze / drugs / meat) and martial arts. They're proper nutters.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree that the sentence handed to Brock Turner > seems abhorrent, and a failure of the justice > system. However, we should also recognize that > society at large has condemned this sentence, all > the media are talking about it, open letters from > congressmen/women and from the VP of the USA. SO > at least society at large does not accept this as > justice, even if the judge in this case did. Not > saying its right in any way, and hopefully will be > adjusted on appeal, but it would be worse if we > all just shrugged our shoulders. Also, in the past a young man could have been given years in prison, but his face wouldn't have been known outside of a small circle. Brock Turner's face is now known around the world. I don't have any sympathy for him or his stupid father, but I must admit I've felt slightly uncomfortable about the modern day "justice system" that is social media.

I agree with DaveR on this. Yes we know that as a rule white, well educated people get a far easier time from legal systems. No one is arguing about that. But the thread title is "Brock Turner", and in this specific case I agree that race wasn't a factor. They published his bloody swimming times in the news reports FFS.

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > EU Courts backing our rules. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36526158 > > > But at what financial cost to get that agreement > and why did we need to get them to back us when we > should be able to make a ruling like that without > having someone outside of our borders having the > final say so... "why did we need to get them to back us" Well I'm assuming because someone made a challenge to them. We can make whatever rulings we like. And if said ruling are outside of the law, people will challenge them. All sorts of ruling at government and at local level get challenged in the (UK) courts all the time. It's not like the European Courts makes any rulings on our behalf, the government makes rulings. I for one am happy to have a court that tells them when dodgy rulings are illegal.

I only saw the second half, but I thought that despite Belgium not really working as a unit, Italy still weren't dominating that much.

EU Courts backing our rules. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36526158

Yeah, it was all a bit disjointed wasn't it. Didn't think Italy looked great.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta, his grand-dad was Turkish and he's always > been a huge advocate for Turkey joining the EU > (which is very unlikely to happen for about 30 > reasons). > > Rook, why don't you specifically say what you > think I've got wrong. I'd be interested to know. Yes I know, but the point is that in recent weeks he's rather brushed that bit under the carpet.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I didn't realise how much misinformation > has been spread and it really bothers me. People > can pick what they want but they should be able to > do so knowing the reality of the situation. Couldn't agree more. That's basically why I just can't bring myself to keep reading or watching the liars from both campaigns on telly. Although I was amused to see this video from 2006 of Boris Johnson urging us to accept Turkey in to the EU. https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/boris-johnson-turkey?utm_term=.arvlNXyRK#.mrA8akLAP

Haha, life's hard lessons.

I don't know how you guys keep going with this. I lost the will to live pages ago.

Yeah Lallana could do with a goal, but he played well. And none of the others got a goal either in a match full of chances.

So to the performance. Like Rooney in that position, he did really well and worked really hard going forward and tracking back. Credit where it's due. No one did anything wrong, but I think Sterling was a weak link. Dier was great (Not just the goal), and pleased to see Lallana playing like that. Total sucker punch at the end, but for all the great play with no goals, I was pretty much expecting it.

UEFA would never kick a team out or play a match behind closed doors (at short notice) because it would cost them too much.

I've nothing at all against the new manager, I don't know them so why would I. But giving someone a week to leave their job and their home for no good reason is just nasty, so I do have something agaionst the owners.

Most people have surely watched and enjoyed The Italian Job.

I'd bloody hate to be there right now.

I am feeling nervous, but bookies still backing remain.

aerie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > are you a romantic? do you enjoy having your > emotions manipulated? > do you enjoy violent/sadistic, cruel, > frightening/gory films? > how about historical? > comedies? > biographical movies? > war films? > really really old, ie black and white > film noir? > foreign films? > French > Czech > Russian > Japanese > Chinese > Korean > Australian? > Swedish/Danish existential films > American gangster > South American countries, the only one I can think > of off hand is Black Orfeo > Psycho > Films of books > Films of famous, classic books > animal films > > give us a time scale please if you can, i.e. a cut > off year > > and continued feedback He gave an example of Grosse Pointe Blank, and said this sort of thing. So 90s is fine. Noy blockbusters, bit of dark humour, that kind of thing. TRUE ROMANCE for example ;-)

Survey suggests that British people basically haven't got a clue. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-a7074311.html No surprises there then.

On blah blah's behalf I would like to claim offence Steveo, and demand you apologise for that low down dirty comment!

60 - 90 minutes is quite a long set, especially for a solo act. Just trying to give helpful advise.

Dodgeball for just stupid laughs.

Was searching for this thread as wanted to share that footage, and it appears to have been taken down. Gutted.

Talking of British films (Not classic but cracked me up), can I recommend Kingsmen.