Good work canela, although not really controversial, more sport on. One reason Pizza Express is always packed is because the staff are usually lovely with kids, as are the gruff and sometimes scary looking blokes in your average kebab shop. When we took our then 9 month old daughter to Venezuella for a friend's wedding, and stayed with the family, they absolutely adored her, and there was no question of trying to keep her out of everyone's way. In the UK, I think we live a generally too fast paced and stressfull lifestyle, and part of that means that we don't have the patience to deal with kids.