I don't read any of them, because I don't want to be labelled. Quids, you're right about the pension thing not effecting state pensions, but it's not only public sector workers retiring on final salary pensions who will be effected. Lots of elderly people have various little, or not so little, pensions from the firms they worked for for years, back when things were better all round, and you could get a decent pension from a normal working class job if you put the years in. These people will be losing out.