StraferJack

I think the Irish psyche is best expressed in this fine song

Look, there is ALWAYS at least one genre of music which is singled out as a worry. So you might think we are having a different debate but I don't. You are focusing on this particular genre, becase it's what these kids are into but it's almost a moot point. We could equally talk about Death Metal does exposure to violence make people violent is a different question - but it wasn't the question when you said that people who are into or write violent lyrics need to have their head examined But again, the same reasoning has always existed - horror comics were banned for years because of their supposed corruption of young people. It's attractive to people who want to think there is a simple solution for societal problems. Kids are killing each other? These kids listen to rap music and play video games... qed 2+ 2 = whateveriwantittobe here's my theory - if someone is listening to seriously violent lyrical content then it's most likely a) a rebellious phase and nothing to worry about b) indicitave of someone with problems already who was subsequently attracted to the violent imagery. I would be very surprised if there was a c) well adjusted individual who heard some violent lyrics and though it would be cool to re-enact in real life

Although it is true that Coca Cola (who also own Fanta) were selling it to the Nazis as an aid to their ward effort at the same time as allied troops. Mark prendergast wrote a fanta(ooops!)stic book about the history of the company. Worth tracking down

I'll tell you one thing for sure. No incentive in the world is big enough to see me use one of those bikes on Dog Kennel Hill

I'm not saying you haven't got any insight - I'm just saying banal cliches are not the way to convey it At the risk of further nit-picking, you say you " prefer though not to resort to semantics " when you are specifically picking apart the lyrics to a song is a bit rich. Either we are talking about what people really mean by their choice of words, or we aren't If you are helping kids through youth programmes and suchlike, good on you and more power to your elbow. But failing to understand that violence, murder and all-round-bad-attitude have been part of popular music since day 1 suggests you aren't on a strong footing. To then sound like Mary Whitehouse while you do it - surely not even you want to align yourself with the reactionary forces throughout the history of pop music? And it's not semantics to suggest that your quote "I think any kid that thinks there any merit in making music about killing and robbing people needs their head testing " does exactly that

and the problem with the phrase "the problem with a lot of these kids today" is it's SUCH a cliche! Insight rarely follows in it's wake

"Oh C'mon Elvis is not comparable to ganster rap." tell that to prisoner #3! Bugger, there goes my Johnny Cash records too. Shooting a man in Reno.. not because he HAD to, the self-defence option, but because JC just wanted to see him die Bloody irresponsible if you ask me But think about - DJKQ has a clue in her own name, or does Killa mean something else? i don't think any of us need lectures about gang culture in SE London. We can see the evidence daily. But pointing at lyrics in songs as a sign of delinquency is as old as the hills. Footloose was a parable you know...

It doesn't scream for attention to be fair then again, the number of times I have accidentally clicked on it when trying to use that drop down box to navigate the forum, I'd swear I could recite the useful numbers by heart!

Nope - i still can't get past "The problem with a lot of these kids today". It's too good. Of course lyrics have always been problematic. When Elvis sang jailhouse rock, and the line "Number 47 said to Number 3 you're the cutest jailbird I ever did see" Where was the condemnation of prison rape??? context people, context

No - we're not. Too far out to be financialy or logistically viable And they are too uncomfortable to be cycling teh 4-6 miles most people would be using them for

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did you write that knowingly?

Looks like a certain resident of SE15 has turned their dial to MAX http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/P12995470.jpg

For a nice Saturday dinner, the ambience of the PR probably wins - the florence gets too busy for a "dining" experience on a Saturday night I agree with Mockney re: PR's roast dinner but in truth the Florence's roast beef brisket is my goto sunday roast of choice.

+1s to Mockney and Ratty for giving me a chuckle on a Monday morning at work

The writing, script and performances in Portal 2 are consistantly great. Quoting isn't an option as it's all spoilerage basically but one section which referenced female French fashion experts had me laughing louder than any tv/film comedy for a long time i believe some DLC is imminent Onion

As with the uk, the Irish population need to shoulder their part in the blame game for the current situation there. Rampant greed - not unexpected for a nation which has historically been poor. A history of indulging shyster politicians as well The public get what the public wants.

you're missing out on Pasha Jeremy like it says, not about the food but the experience I also have had good times in La Luna further along towards town And not forgetting Zeret Kitchen Basically, as unlovely as the road is I retain a soft spot for it whilst understanding why people dislike it so

oooh I just remembered.. Tanora http://slaintecork.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/img_4213.jpg

Funnily enough I too spent several hours pushing a buggy around the high St yesterday. Too say it can be difficult is overegging that particular pudding. And I'll repeat that people were, almost to a person, friendly and polite.

Any drink Anywhere Better than that shite It's like Irish people banging on about taytos 7 up is the soft drink of kings. End of

Posts like this always make me question the poster I spent several hours on the lane today and had nothing but friendleness from fellow pedestrians and shopkeepers alike. What's to complain about?

Green chicken handi is a favourite of mine. The red chicken handi tho... I couldn't breathe

If only that model didn't result in 6 year waits between episodes Still the climax of ep 2 will remain a gaming memory to cherish

No small feat indeed. Consider caps doffed in your direction