" I don't think this thread is one to be getting personal with people. " you might want to reconsider repeating my name then, given that you don't do it with anyone else "Of course I am not directly comparing her charity work to a man who defeated apartheid in South Africa. Why does everything on this forum always lead to personal attacks? " Apologies - I hadn't realised you had chosen a different thread to make the comparison. as for NM bringing peace without confrontation? I'm as in awe of him as most, but his unbelievable equanimity to enemies upon release is amazing, but he was no saint and wasn't afraid of confrontation PS what personal attacks?