I think that pubs are no place for children. Adults need adult space. The world (well, middle class Britain) is becoming too child-centred. Children are lovely, inspirational, funny, perplexing, but they don't drink alcohol and don't want to hear adults being true adults, not parents. Pubbish behaviour, and I don't mean getting bladdered and being lairy, is different from other adult behaviour, and should not be compromised because there are under 10s clacking around in their Crocs. Adults need a space to be adults. Likewise, kids need places to be kids. And families need places to be families, and a pub is no place for that, no matter how upmarket and gastro-fied it may be. Would you take your kids to the Plough and let them run amok in there? Hmm. Maybe not. Nero