The fundamental difference as pointed out by a few on this thread is the use in the US where liberal tends to be mainly used as a default term for ?left wing? and, as Loz said, given that their left wing party sits somewhat to the right of the conservatives over here, becomes even more confusing. Nevertheless that US centric version of ?liberal?, where it is almost always used insultingly, has crept into use over here and is used in that sense too - including on here by me, frequently (yes, I sadly even used libtard once - well spotted EP - and thanks US centric poker sites! ) . In truth I consider myself proudly liberal, and my slightly derogatory use of liberal on the forum is practically always used thus, ?liberal? (not that that?s ever noticed ) and is aimed at my mainly lefty (no Ampersands), chums . In fact many lefties are pretty illiberal! And as EP says, in that sense liberal is used pejoratively to mean Guardian reader! And Dave spot on on the sanctimonious, unpleasant, arrogant (dare I say childish) often held leftish view that anyone who doesn?t hold their world view is by definition a Tory, fascist b*stard, who doesn?t care about others and is not worthy of debating with, gets right on my tits. That?s why I hate the Guardian, right there, they think they are the only ones with white cowboy hats on. I also get fed up with the continuum view of politics where you are somewhere on a straight line between left and right. I am going to remain a liberal with a slight anarchistic frame of mind who sees merits in many libertarian positions but is personally too committed to some form of the state, not too big, to embrace it, libertarianism, as an ism?.