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Oh yes (1965)

Fellbrigg for me too :)

..they didn't instagram the bread and loaves tho did they PGC?

I even enjoyed it at the Old Den PGC - it felt a bit safer in there than the journey in and out :)

For me it's a close call with "going to football". back in the day it was dirtier, more dangerous, darker, you were treated like scum by the police, it was scarier by miles, etc, etc....but....but...I preferred it to going now, I think. I am genuienely glad its changed really, and now I can take my kids in the next couple of years, (I'd had never have done that if it was still like the 80s), but, but......

In 1981 I stayed with some artists (oooh get me) on E104 on the Lower East Side, we were told NOT to turn right out of the apartment door at all like YOU WILL MAYBE DIE. Hells Angels were guarding the block opposite as they had a 'clubhouse' there, walking through Washington Square gardens was all "You eat acid man?" and 'loose joints' sold out of jam jars.....I went down the Lower East side with my missus in 2006, more gentrified than SE22 ....in a sort of way, i preffered it back in the day

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I would love to go to Bobby Womack. So much good > stuff from him. > > I happened to be on 110th St two weeks back and > couldn't resist sticking it on the headphones. > Does a beautiful spaced out cover of California > Dreaming too..... I think 110th Street has probably changed a fair bit since Mr Womack wrote that song! I love all that gritty 70s funk/soul - Curtis Mayfield being the master

Yup, slavery, not a problem until meddlesome old Wilberforce in the early 19th century

I,d suggest that all the Guardian Readers who tuck into a morally ambiguous and very expensive product such as Foie Gras maybe give it up and donate the money to a food charity....not holding my breath tho, or my stomach in

*shakes fist

I support it, mainly 'cos I have young kids who aren't that capable of crossing roads responibly consistently. But less personally and more factually From my speed awareness course I seem to remember there is a huge shift in survival rates with pedestrian car accidents between 20mph and 30mph like most survive at 20, most die at 30 type figures. Plus idiot drivers tend to creep a few MPH above the speed limit so I'd raher idiots drove at 25mph than 35 mph. All simple stuff.

Sunderland 1 QPR 1 Aston Villa 1 Reading 1 Chelsea 1 -Fulham 1 Everton 1 Arsenal 0 Southampton 2 Norwich 2 Stoke 1 Newcastle 0 Swansea 1 West Brom 2 Spurs 1 Liverpool 0 Man U 2 West Ham 0 Wigan 1 City 2

Have they got the Angels in to do security?

Otta....an NF recruting pitch selling 'British bulldog" outside UP got attacked in early 1980s....nazi leaflet distribtors were 'told' they were not welcome. If Cass Pennant told me "excuse me chaps but that sort of thing is not on" I'd listen :)

Shameful chants from a minority. I went to the game an old West Ham mate of mine on Monday, solid West Ham from Forest Gate and Jewish. We've always had a reasonable jewish following ourselves (not least the Chairman!) makes no sense to me.

Thw West Dulwich Forum will give you a feel for West Dulwich :)

er, you can criticise whoever you want religously, I'll join in in the right mood, I'm just chortled by your and other's consistent choice of the easy target, always..... My original point was actually a criticsim of the C of E if you read it (doubtful) as I said if you are going to do reliogon you may as well make it hellfire and brimstone, absolutes and bigotry...as the trying to be a sort of religous lite touchy feely, slightly enlightened, slightly liberal meh annoys everyone, as the Good old C of E is finding out.

it was sort of a joke, u know deity/religon/single source/strict parameters of behaviour etc??? Anyway, for huge Is voting against a woman becoming a bishop on religous grounds the same as shooting a girl in the head, on religous grounds, for wanting to go to school, say?

Sunderland 0 West Brom 1 Everton 2 - Norwich 2 Man U 2 Qpr 1 Stoke 1 Fulham 0 Wigan 2 Reading 0 Aston Villa 1 Arsenal 2 Swansea 1 Liverpool 2 Saints 2 Newcastle 0 Chelsea 1 Man City 2 Spuds 1 Irons 2 Yaaaaaaaaaaaay

So threads have to stick within strict paramaters set by a single person or the originator? Sounds a bit religous to me

But my original point SJ was because it has bowed to secular, emlightened liberalism the most - for Huges reference the C of E actually has woman priests, go and check out the others and yes relativism is important, bizzare to think it's not - hence the decline. But this is just an intellectual position not a political stance, I couldn't give a monkeys about christianity of any flavour or Islam, all superstitious, not fit for pupose in the 21st Century and certainly cusing far more probllems than the good they do. I still have my 'prejudice' about which partivcular one is CURRENTLY turning in the nastiest direction and significantly so. But hey ho....Personally I'd like to give one hemisphere to religous nut jobs of the world and let the rest of us muddle along to our inevitable and final lonely death.

Do they still do the Passive Agressive twirly pattern?

Ok, thank you. Well, actually Catholicism does get a bashing reasonably frequently on here and in social media (and quite rightly so). So why doesn't Islam? I dunno, not as many of us from a muslim tradition, the 'i don't know much about it' cop out and a fair old dose of PCness would be my verdict. Also whilst the Cof E would make its critics a nice cup of tea, and the Catholic church would threaten them with hell, a very, small minority of followers of Islam would try and arrange for them to go there. I think it has an effect (on wider social media/media coverage) To my original point on a whole range of issues from women to homosexulaity the C of E looks miles ahaed of Catholicism/Islam, and though I take your point about it being the established church/religon it still seems an easy target with less baggage for the 'attacker'. The tweetersphere is rammed with outrgae on this....I feel slightly sorry (with a touch of amusemant) for the the wooly, pretty liberal (for a dogmatic faith based creed) 'nice' C of E.

Last time I looked at the abortion thread it was an argument bewteen you and a fellow Irish person - I don't think there's much to argue about that case in general a sthe thread seemed to be reaching a consensus on. Now this IS interesting....."And all you do is complain how Catholics and Muslims get a free ride", the use of Catholoics and Muslims by you. No I don't \anywhere, I actually discuss ISLAM and CATHOLICISM. You're so Guardian wired up for percieved racial prejudice that that is what you infer (and probbaly think) is meant by any criticsim of religon, especilally THAT one. I really hope the raeson that you just can't bring yourself to criticise an ethnic minority RELIGON, is not on the absurd grounds that it makes you not look like a Guardian reader. That would be most illiberal and stupid....and typical foooking Guardian reader I might add. "Don't talk about it people might think we're racist" I would also like to see some proof, that I say catholics and muslims get a free ride...ever, anywhere on this forum. Choose your words more wisely in these areas please.

How many women are allowed into the main prayer room at Friday prayers at any mosque globally or in the UK?.just asking