er Sean, you don't half think in black and white fella, i drove my car for the first time today in probably a month I get the bus into work daily, do you think that motorists are a seperate breed of people who never venture onto public transport and spend their whole time clogging up London deliberately? Once more I see you are putting yourself up as the best to comment on an issue because 'you gave up your car'...bully for you, you got kids or a mum who lives in the country you want to go and see most weekends? i have no problem with controlled traffic including parking restrictions, I have a massive problem with the council sticking bays in my street which apart from occasionally on a Saturday has no real parking problems, then charging me ?X for a permit for parking outside my house, which I pay council tax on, on a road, that I pay road tax for, before letting loose their hitlers on visiting friends, or me id my permit slides off the window or my wheels are an inch into another bay....and having the gall to pretend that this has anything to do with managing traffic. IT HASN'T, ITS POLITICIANS TRYING TO RAISE MONEY....