* buys loz a drink * seriously tho, I'm glad no-one was hurt but that was a bit of a presumption there Jamma. And Annaj recollection re that incident is the same as mine But I'm not against cars on LL - just wish there were fewer. And those that drive spent less time complaining (kudos to CitizenEd for his post on a related subject) Goose Green as a junction I have found to be mostly pretty good - most people seem to have good awareness there - it's the one by the Bishop that is a real monster. Something needs to be done there