Jeremy

Just looked at the website, mains look to be ?4-?5, which doesn't seem too bad... isn't that similar to a supermarket ready meal? I can definitely see the appeal of something like this... for instance, I love shepherds pie but if I get home from work at 8pm or whatever, I'm not going spend an hour making the sodding thing. Supermarket ready meals tend to taste a bit grim, and usually too salty. Takeaways tend to cost a minimum of ?20 for two, and are universally unhealthy. If it really does come to ED, I'll probably give it a go and judge for myself.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Re 99P shop, been using the one in Peckham for years Which one in particular? There are at least four. Also, not a new business as such, but looks like Peckham Refreshment Rooms are expanding into the shop next door.

Sorry about that, thought you'd enjoy the show.

There are two stations within walking distance of Camberwell Green, but if you're further north (round Albany Rd, for example), you're a long way from the nearest station. Buses don't count because they're crap.

Fox is right, that place is a must.

There's a restaurant called In't Nieuw Museum... they cook big steaks on an open fire in the dining room, perfect washed down with a few local beers. All depends on your idea of 'Christmassy' I suppose - you could always bring some party hats with you.

Sod off back to Clapham.

The OKR tip is tops. It kind of reminds me of a karting track. Throwing your stuff down into the pits is so much better than climbing up the side of the skips, like you had to do in the West Dulwich one. And you never have to queue. I almost look forward to going there.

Dulwich Tandoori every time for me.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very many European countries offer city dwellers > mainly apartment living - meaning that private > gardens are unusual In city centres, yes. Not suburbs so much (and Dulwich is pretty suburban IMO). In somewhere like Paris, while the sprawl of large apartment buildings reaches a few miles out of the centre, you still reach a point where there are mainly houses with gardens.

Yeah but on the roads without parking restrictions, you often have to park round the corner anyway!

Tarot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A garden is a tradional british feature. Can you name some other developed countries in which it is not traditional for a house to have a garden?

I had exactly the same problem - took almost two weeks to arrive. I phoned Southwark, and they told me that even if the payment has gone through, you'll still get fined for not displaying a valid permit. The only solution was to park round the corner for a few days until it finally arrived. I actually prefer living in a CPZ (I park right outside my house every time), but it does have drawbacks...

Fabricio the Guido Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hardly ever see anyone described as white or > European, I wonder why that is the case. Oh it does happen. It's just that people don't draw attention to it in order to reinforce their moral superiority.

So private education buys better grades, but not necessarily smarter kids... even if I decide to send my daughter to private school in years to come, I'd be able to live with that, I think. In my experience the people who land jobs through "connections" do so via their parents, not their school friends. I don't think private/state school is all that relevant in that equation.

Everyone round to yours for breakfast tomorrow then, Foxy!

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Research has shown that state school children who > get to university on average do better than > private school kids. What research? This? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26773830 What it actually says is that "state school pupils do better at university than independent school candidates who have achieved the same A-level grades". To me this implies that children of equivalent ability level get better grades at private school than they would at state school, probably because they get more attention, or are coached for the exams. Then when they go to uni, things level out a bit. The article also says that "67% of independent school pupils achieved a 2:1 or above, compared with 62.3% of state school and college pupils". So it's hardly a damning expose of the private school system.

bawdy-nan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I understand it bright children, statistically, > do better at state schools. This sounds a bit far fetched to me. Can you find any source for this? If there are good state secondary schools where you live (and you can get into one) then great, but that isn't always the case. I don't think we should be judgemental towards those who send children to private school, they're just trying to get the best education for their kids - even if you believe they are misguided.

If you think we don't need another cafe, or you don't like dogs in cafes, then just don't go. Problem solved.

No, streaming in primary school wouldn't really make sense.

Yeah, I'm not convinced by all this lump-em-in-together stuff either. By all means let everyone do history/geography/cooking/drawing/etc together, but maths, physics, chemistry... no way.

Someone posted a while ago that anyone who could afford to send their kids to private school would, and that any objections were pure jealousy. Surely nobody could seriously be that stupid and narrow minded. There are plenty of affluent parents who choose to send their kids to state school.

But you still get the vitamins innit

You're not really selling it to me, miga.

Fig tarte tatin is good. Or grill them with blue cheese on top, and eat with brioche. Ravioli stuffed with walnut and fig.