Jeremy

I was really intending to stay away from this thread - but what is the evidence for reincarnation? I've seen stuff on TV about people having knowledge/memories of places they've never been to. And Hal's Wikipedia link mentions something about birthmarks representing fatal wounds of the previous incarnation. But I assume you're referring to something rather more substantial!

Dickensman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Prince of Wales.........Buffoon. And his brothers too. In fact, you can pretty much add all the royals to the list. Rowan Atkinson can go in along with Tony Robinson. Also Kate Moss, Liz Hurley, Naomi Campbell, etc. Spice Girls. Cheryl Tweedy. Simon Cowell. Gordon Ramsay. Hugh Grant.

neilson99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Will we bleeding hearts/snobs/inverted snobs/proles of > ED-narnia have much say in the matter?! Actually yes... if the council currently own the premises/land.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Time to let this thread sink" - well, unlike you, I tried! You've got to be joking.

Bellenden Belle - I think most of us realise that we're lucky to have good butchers in the neighbourhood. The point is that there's a market for both.

Bellenden Belle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is an absolute myth. Meat, fruit and veg is > ridiculously expensive in supermarkets compared to > using a greengrocers at Pretty Traditional or a > butchers like William Rose - particularly if you > choose supermarket organic or premium ranges. To be fair, it does depend what you buy, and what level of quality you're looking for. If you want a ?4 chicken or a ?1 pack of mince, you won't find those at WR. But on the other hand, some items are a similar price and much better quality (e.g. duck breasts, rack of lamb). Similar story with fruit and veg. You can often get a huge bag of carrots for ?1 or less at the supermarkets. But then things like peppers are overpriced and not particularly tasty.

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ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > >Who is the hell is this "Stewart" person? > I assume it's Jon Stewart. OK, fair enough. I didn't realise it was supposed to be satirical.

Great article, Sean. It never ceases to amaze me, the evil things that people can do in the name of religion. I think Rubsley made an important point in separating God from organised religion. I respect this stance (even if I don't understand it) a lot more than someone who blindly follows scripture and mythology. The latter can have very dangerous results.

Throw out Co-op. Get Waitrose in instead. If only it was that easy.

I don't doubt the bias of the media when it comes to reporting stories concerning attractive females. But the "formula" is barely worthy of that description. Who is the hell is this "Stewart" person? And I think it's foolish to suggest that the Police are similarly influenced. Mick Mac's right, a reaction on a par with the Joanna Yeates case would have been way over the top in this situation.

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy - other posters have recently rebutted > theists with the rationalist, scientific evidence > argument - Silverfox and Huguenot, for example, > appear to be caught in that gyre. You?re not alone > :) > > Just trying to free your minds - there is NO > spoon! I'm not sure how that's an answer to my previous post... but anyway...

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apart from meat and fish, what is it people need > to buy late at night that can be sourced from the > Turkish shop or Nisha?s (to pick two examples) As far as the Waitrose/M&S argument goes, we're talking ready-meals, pre-prepared salad/veg, stuff like that. And melting-middle chocolate puddings. But both Sainsbury's branches cater fairly well to that market already. Also, I think a lot of people just don't realise that the Turkish shop is actually pretty good.

DulFox... proper tiger prawns are something like 20cm long (or more), and come from Asia. You NEVER see them fresh here... I've never seem them in a supermarket either. You sometimes get them frozen from fishmongers and Asian supermarkets, in large-ish boxes.

In short - the Police are qualified to determine whether somebody has disappeared in suspicious circumstances, and prioritise accordingly. Any missing person is a serious matter, but the reaction by the Police and the media has to be in proportion.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > elimination from SE22 of any household with a joint income of less than 20k 20K? Why so generous?

HAL - thanks for the input, but I wasn't exactly tying to re-ignite the debate on science/evidence, etc (we've all made our opinions clear on that one). Rather, I was trying to probe further into rubsley's conversion, and how a former aethiest would reconcile his old views with his new enlightened knowledge. Or would he just say "I was wrong", and carry on...

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SeanMacGabhann Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > I'm no supermarket user > Bless you. I liked that bit too! I'm sure I saw him the other day sneaking out of Sainsbury's with a pack of "Bi?re des Moulins", and a frozen chocolate gateaux.

Emerson Crane Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stuck in the middle with you Not exactly a hidden gem - it sold over a million copies, and featured in one of the most notorious movie scenes ever!

HAL - I agree that rubsley's contributions are as valid as anyones... I just didn't like the suggestion that the aethiests stop arguing, and we move onto a discussion about God and the spiritual realm. rubsley - the contradictions I refer to have been covered in detail on this thread, but for example... the fact that the existence of an omnipresent being would seem to violate our scientific knowledge, and that there is no evidence pointing towards such a phenomenon - yet many accept is as fact. Did you have these thoughts back in your aethiest days? If so, you would be presumably well placed to counter such arguments.

MichaelNx Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And isn't it a bit odd that James is anti > Sainsbury's, and by implication, anti Iceland and > Co-op but pro Waitrose and M&S? Is it right to be > lobbying for a personal brand preference like > this? Where did he say he's anti-Sainsbury's? I don't think he's lobbying for Waitrose/M&S, he is asking whether people want it.

Rubsley - I don't think statements like "how about the nit-picking atheists go find some other bone to chew on" are helpful. It just sounds as though you can't be bothered to listen to opposing points of view. You can't come into an existing debate and say "stop arguing with me, because I'm right"! Surely as a former aethiest, and an intelligent bloke, you must have already wrestled with all the apparent contradictions? If you want a conversation based around the central premise that God exists, then this is not the right thread for it. And it's not one that I'd be interested in, tbh.

waynetta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wish I knew what it was about? Something about his hatred of stardom, apparently.

Prudish over-reactions all round. untamedstylist - you're not going to convince them it's OK, so you may as well just leave it there.

Just call it a "reception", everyone knows what that means.