El Pibe

Those owls, that statue, the pants. https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Melbourne+Grove,+London&hl=en&ll=51.45747,-0.078417&spn=0.00345,0.00795&sll=51.528642,-0.101599&sspn=0.440851,1.017609&oq=melbourne&t=m&hnear=Melbourne+Grove,+London,+United+Kingdom&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.457475,-0.078233&panoid=PcVxpPg1VzUeXJXE_Cd7nw&cbp=12,345.79,,0,-3.45

I dunno. I think the main problem was that it relied on style (beautifully shot, good writing and black humour) over substance, on tired plot devices (manuscript of hidden truth, bad people, nefarious organisation with undefined and unjustfied powers) over internal consistency and well thought out setting. Billy the Fish always used to cover up impossible story shifts and resolutions by having the manager neck whiskly until it made sense, and essentially that's how Utopia covered up its inadequacies, by being surreal. That said, I still enjoyed it even if it it rarely made sense or maintained any plausability even within its own loosely constructed world. It was stylish, and funny and occasionally a little disturbing. The main theme could have been pursued a little more seriously because it actually IS an interesting question to pose, how do we solve the terrible future that's coming? But then there has been plenty of sci-fi written that explores that much better I suppose.

Is it intentional irony then that the headline you link to is "Oscar Pistorius case: The Blonde is the victim here"

Hmm, ED History may well chuckle at his own jokes, but he isn't getting Ted's!

true enough, it was that damned strafer and his black books obsession that steered it that way, I'd have linked to the Absolutely Henry Honda vs JW sketch myself!

strictly speaking you did woody, the holy spirit being a fundamental facet of the trinitarianism, though obviously you meant it figuratively. I think ED History just likes making himself chuckle, I don't think anyone can be that pedantic, not even me.

Oh quite agree, terrific, lots of very black humour, good performances, suitably surreal and some of the best cinematography I've seen anywhere for a long time. Still not sure who the bad guys were, even the woman off Bott on the Landscape who turned out to be the rabbit, bad guy or good guy?

Indeed, but irrelevant, we're trying to get into the instituional mind here aren't we, and by the strict interpretation of the church that even a theoretical penchant for male on male sex invalidates eligibility for the priesthood, then sex with boys surely fulfils that criteria.

Sooooooo, anyone the wiser? The one bit I understood was that Stevenage lies at the heart of darkness!!!

I do wonder, if homosexuality in the priesthood is so anathema, why they seemed so reluctant to defrock preists who raped boys, it's a topsy turvey world, which I suppose brings in your second point, though regardless of bans, they at the very least should go to prison, unless the church believes it's ecumenical laws supercede those mere passing fads of temporal authorities. Of the fourth point, in fairness it's a much misunderstood concept. It was only crystallised in modern times and isn't often invoked, it doesn't say popes are infallible, but on crucial ecumenical matters they bang a proverbial fist on the table and say 'the buck stops here'. The last pope never used it once I believe.

http://goo.gl/maps/Zv6Ez hmm, google maps a bit wide angle to appreciate it. It's better from the cycle path now oriwu spot has gone, although obviously the google car doesn't drive down there .... well nor does anything else at the moment given the rate of progress on the resurfacing (read zilch). You get a wonderful sense of it from my mate's flt in Herne Hill, which in fairness shares some of the valley too.

streetview links people, pur-leeeease!!!

A pity, I'm rather enjoying the unobstructed view of the ED valley in the morning as I take the litle ones to nursery. especially with this momrning's lifting fog. Incidentally as a result of this the nursery is turning the scrubland behind both it and this new building into a community garden, every saturday morning. Volunteers welcome.

It's all very dramatic, gone is the beautious glory that was Oriwu Spot, here are the diggers and now pile drivers. Anyone have the foggiest what is being built? Is there a clever page on the SOuthwark website that one can find this sort of thing out?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-make-web-links-open-firefox-default?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=How+to+make+Firefox+the+default+browser At some point you opened chrome and a dialog must said 'maked blah blah default' and you must have clicked ok.

I suppose if you're hairy enough you can be described as furry. They are hairy aren't they?

Marvellous, just like the old days!! Can anyone confirm if any daffodils were harmed in the making of this dance? Louisa will be having words....*crosses fingers*

oops, i added them to random stuff before seeing this. http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,914612,1052057,page=3#msg-1052057

Putting bizarre self-contradictions and a penchant for historical determinism aside for one moment, H's original point is probably closer to the truth. A Nation of 4 million presidents.

youtube compilation of a meteor careening across the skies over Russia. Very cool. the link might help http://darkskydiary.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-150213/

DAveR, I got into a bit of a tiz about the phrase 'social cleansing' in a thread a few years back, I feel your pain.

Still waiting for that for CJD, Pills ...... I'm with Utopia, no such thing as SARS innit ;)

I haven't heard of a huge surge in cases of aplastic anaemia execp in House. Now if beer turns out to contain the carcasses of coked up squirrels, then I'll start to worry.

That's rather the point, if the nation's favourite brands have no idea what's in their products then nor will we. The second point is when you find yourself in bed with an ugly woman, the best thing to do is close your eyes and get on with it; if you can't actually taste the difference between horse and beef in a product you have to ask yourself should you care.

A small earthenware pot and bonfire will do,they're all plastic these days.