KidKruger

I have contacted the expert again to ask specifically about the grooves (as pointed out by blahblah and ponderwoman) in the edge of the grind stone not resembling other (what seem to be) traditional grindstones used for sharpening blades. The fact that it's not a stroll finding the answer on the www I find interesting. Thanks for all replies so far.

That's fascinating. I was waiting for the stone column or something to appear and solve this mystery tho !!

my bin men collect nothing not inside the bin. They will discard anything stacked against/on top of the bin, however neatly and obvious for collection, into my front garden. Not a given !

Sounds like that cleaner knows something we don't. I wonder how he was privvy to such valuable information that we're (certainly I am) not.

The charge-out day rates rates charged buy the consultancies being publicised are not the earnings by those individuals doing the work.

If these roads (LTN) are to be closed permanently, they should be built on. We are short of housing. Affordable homes with a walkway (original pavement) to the houses - keeping the 'no traffic' cause satisfied while using land wisely.

Maybe hang out with Bob Buzzard ?

Anyone learning computer science at GCSE or above should understand a bit about base 16 Hex.

Foxy, as long as they're not leaking / can be placed in a container which will not leak, I can take them to the recycling centre for you next time I go. I have nothing booked yet but I'd guess in the next 2-3 weeks if that's any use.

Foxy, Found in the Thames at Rotherhithe, 100m West of the Surrey Docks Farm site. DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am interested to know where on the Thames it was > found. ? > > North or South Bank. I believe it has something > to do with business activity, > > Part of Lifting gear.. Barge loading... Brewery > ... Flour Mills .... ?? > > I Believe it is old. > > Foxy

Yeah I pondered this, ponderwoman, good point. I noticed 90 degree angles on other grinding stones on t?internet, too. I?ll ask the expert I was communicating with earlier. Perhaps there?s more yet to this story.

Absolutely Spartacus, everyone?s self-entitlement is why we?re approaching highest cases seen yet and will be the reason for the perpetual repeat of this for a long time to come. WTF are people going to the pub for in a pandemic ?! Because Govt says we can ?? Since when did their advice consider the people and their welfare ? Stay In FFS.

What Rockets said.

So I found out what this is by talking with a Thames finds specialist who advised me as follows. It's a late medieval grindstone. That is, a grindstone for blades such as knifes, axes, swords. It would have been hung on a square timber section which was attached to a turning apparatus to be spun by hand, probably a large handle to the side. It's fine-grain stone, typical of grindstones used then. How and why it ended-up in the Thames is a point of intrigue, possibly it fell from a jetty or boat, being probably too heavy to be washed around by the river so being found where it fell, in the mud. Glad to have got this resolved. I was watching a YT clip by this chap and, during his short about his 10x best Thames stone finds, he holds-up a fragment (about a quarter) of a grindstone similar to mine. I then realised what I probably had found. So I contacted him and he confirmed the find. I'll talk to MoL and see if they want it to display as part of the Thames finds section, I'll construct the wooden apparatus if they want. I see no photos or diagrams of grindstones with same features as the one I found, so I'll take the advice for now as it's the best I've had, but I've a nagging doubt it's not the entire story - until I learn more.

When I found it, with one edge sticking out of the mud, I thought it was the edge of a large stoneware jar. As I dug deeper I realised it was something else and the grooves around the side left me pondering. I did speculate whether it was some kind of maritime mooring block whereby it slotted over an upright wooden post and rested on the jetty, while ropes were tied around it and eroded the sides in that uneven way (no, DR, there's no helical groove). I then wondered if it could have been part of a pulley system, but why use stone as a material for a pulley I thought ? After that, I figured it may be the base of an ancient stone column, where horses/cattle had for an extended period of time been tethered and caused the erosion on the sides.

There's a lot of hypocrisy anyway, people who flaunt their 'values' in one area, fail badly in others, so overall they're just chatting sh*t. Yet above we have cheap shots and generalisations as a mechanism to pretend to reinforce a point - BS. How many showers a day does one have, how many times a day flush the loo, how much junk ordered via internet, how often one buys new clothes, how much meat one eats, how much one has the heating on when they could wear thermals and a jumper and wooly hat, how long their tap runs when washing up. we can all play virtue signals. heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks KidKruger, my thought exactly. I am pro > reducing car travel, reducing pollution, I have > campaigned in fact for green policy for many of my > 55 years on this planet. I have a plant based > diet, avoid plastic, recycle and upcycle. Have > driven twice in the last 10 years and own a bike > that is used often and walk as much as I can. The > road closures for roads that in the 30+ years I > have lived in East Dulwich have never been as > polluted or busy as East Dulwich Grove, which now > has an extra school, nurseries, a health centre > and is a major road for pedestrians and cyclists. > This road can accommodate a cycle lane with a bit > of imagination and financial input from Southwark. > The current closures are cheap, lazy and represent > poor planning. Pedestrians and cyclists now both > use a crowded and polluted pathway during the > school rush, cars idle and braver cyclists use the > right hand lane at high risk. East Dulwich Grove > is also a high density residential area, less > affluent than the gated communities and with a > higher burden of health inequality. Very poor > Southwark Council, very poor.

What that post also misses, is that almost everybody is in favour of traffic reductions and addressing pollution/climate issues. But what they also are in favour of is a strategic approach which those affected are informed of and included in, rather than instantaneous measures which are ill-thought out, exclusive, and simply turn alternative roads in to rat runs. Sooo lazy to label anyone who complains about the current problems being caused as trying to prevent progress on pollution/traffic/improvements. It's not a binary situation save the world/kill the world, people just want things done sensibly.

poor poor widduw victim or what ?! uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought if you are white and therefore > privileged you cannot have an opinion and are > racist anyway as being white and privileged is > your identity group.....and it makes you racist > ....that's what seems to be the trend these > days...what is going on now in 'society' puts > Goebbels to shame imo

More pics.

About 8yrs ago I posted on EDF some pics of something I had found in the Thames, hoping for an answer as to it's purpose and age. I can't find that post now, so now I'm posting new photos with a question to all - what is this and how old ? Info: - made of stone by looks of it - 10" diameter - 6" deep - the square hole in centre is 3 1/4"

Back in the day winters were harsher, surer and longer than nowadays. Any keying on a path like that would have helped stop slipping and to break-up any surface ice which formed. The concrete could have been finished rougher but may have had a less appealing appearance.

If there had previously been tiles on the path they wouldn't have left a depression around their outline in the concrete like in the photo, and there would have been no use to scoring the concrete like that prior to tiling it. The scoring was to help avoid slips when wet.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm pretty sure crossing Hyde Park corner, and > going up park lane (or coming the other way) > avoids the charge. This.

I've two relatives in hospital with Covid in Yorkshire, one (older) not doing so good, the other (younger) pregnant and I think they're going to try and CS the baby this eve. The hoax-spinners are not good to hear right now.

Sue I have plenty moss on my car window seals (way is it always there that it grows ?), just help yourself, perhaps you can start a moss colony on your shed roof. It's the old blue Bentley.