KidKruger

Nothing mutually exclusive about believing a lockdown is overall best approach while using a park which is open. Most people act according to the conditions they are in, rather than according to how they think conditions will develop in future.

Yup, how many of the *260,000 corpses in Nunhead cemetery have a worshipper ? *as advised to me by a member of FONC

malumbu - not sure I've seen anyone say BJ 'deserves' what he's currently suffering from.

"Every time KK goes out they seem to have an episode with a runner - they must be very unlucky." Great time to be sarcastic (Assuming you weren't gathering empirical data for your daily sample, nor saying I'm exaggerating). I think it makes those being put at risk unlucky, unlucky to the point where according to our own Govts guidelines, it could be fatal for them or their more vulnerable family members. "No point trying to demonise one group more than any other as there are fools everywhere" Obviously, which is why no-one I have seen on this thread is demonising anyone. You can only comment on the misdemeanours you see, right ? If I'd seen walkers, dog walkers, or families doing same I would have noted that too. I'm interested in the safety of people over-all being compromised by a few people. The responses today really seem to reflect the blas? regard the minority seem to consider the current situation with.

"Hmmm... but if you think a full lockdown is necessary, 1. why were you in the park? Sorry not trying to be a dick, 2. just want to understand your proposal." Let's pretend you're not.. (funny, I read your post to my missus, who straight-off said,'they're just being a dick' !) 1. Walking dog. Though I'm not convinced doing so deletes validity of noticing/commenting on stupidity I see in parks. 2. Not sure of any proposal I made, I only mentioned lockdown required if we're make progress (I assume the meaning is obvious anyway, no ?) You do get my point right ? Guidelines say being close to each other especially when breathing heavy is dangerous, and that older people are more susceptible to death. I see both in same place and time and post about it on a thread set-up for that purpose. You do get my point right ? People won't behave = take away the privilege. You do get my point right ? I was walking the dog. I wasn't: - approaching elderly (and by association one would assume, vulnerable) people unannounced from behind then pushing between them - breathing heavily near anyone - forcing vulnerable people off paths for my benefit - going near anyone else I hope this is clear, if not (or you see contradictions in my behaviour v observations), please shout !

Won't be open for long then !

Yeah I saw some up near your area yesterday WoD in middle of road, gloves I think. (I know roughly where you are form years ago when I bought an item off you via EDF - I'm not a stalker !!)

YouTube better I reckon. Checkout Latifs Inspired. Their Daal is great, Onion Bhajis a treat... Some (obviously) Bangldeshi cooks from a curry house near Birmingham !!

If he recovers, I hope it's of some use to the country, like he has increased awareness for other people's hardships, begins to understand people are different but fundamentally should be regarded equal, recognises that inflammatory language can cascade to the street and cause problems for minorities, and can change his behaviours and language to reflect that.

Dulwich Park 0900. Older couple, probably mid-70s to 80s, walking the outer 'natural' path obviously to try and keep out of the way. Runner comes opposite way, he ain't giving signs of caring about distancing, plod plod plod, they clearly look to see if he'll give way. Nope. They step over the timber border on to the grass, walk onto grass a few metres, runner passes, followed by a 2nd runner who's seen this happen, afterwards the older couple return to their walk on path. One minute later a young woman running approached on same path from behind them, runs BEWTEEN them and they have no clue until she's passed. They are visibly surprised and concerned. They weren't even 3ft apart. Come on people, you can do better !! This is happening now, after plenty guidance. THIS is why a proper lockdown is required. That older couple shouldn't be endangered unnecessarily like this, it's really unfair treatment.

...unable to do so because Southwark Council unnecessarily closed Nunhead Cemetery and other cemeteries. they weren't forced to, or driven to do that, they chose to - contrary to Govt advice. because they wanted to.

Good question Sue, I was wondering how I make my asthma obvious too doubters. Perhaps hacking my lungs up onto the pavement in front of them would help ?!

Rather than taking their place, try the English language, it's a handy tool - and free !! Examples: 1. "Excuse me, you may want to shuffle up a bit as the queue's finally moving !" 2. "Oy, lame-ass, get off Snapchat and move yourself forward. Now !" 3. "Let's get moving bro, the pancetta is running low and I won't compromise on my carbonara for tonight's dinner.." 4. "My dry cough is playing-up, *cough* *cough* *hack*, ooh look the queue's suddenly moving quickly (in both ways, away from me)". See what fun you can have ?

Unfortunately I don't see how else we can ensure public safety.

No mine's working perfectly, clear and fast signal, uninterrupted service, no limit to capacity, it'a great !

why not put notes through all doors around where the noise seems to come from, outlining the problem and asking anyone with info (or owner themself) to call you to discuss way forward. You may harvest other concerned folks and be able to put a collective case forward to the owner - once you've (with neighbours help) located the dwelling in question. You're right, other neighbours will be hearing and getting fed up of the noise too.

So, when does the cemetery open?

I was there too on Friday Randombloke (pre-0900). People passing by was crazy, agreed.

No way !!? Nice to be wrong sometimes.

Great sentiment ! However I feel a private school (or private golf course, or other estate land) is unfortunately unlikely to open it's land up to the public. Even if insurance, liability, staffing and setting rules for use were not challenges I doubt that level of community consideration would be forthcoming. But - don't ask, don't get. Good luck. The other issue I guess would be the usual minority (10-20%) of users of the space (if use was allowed) are going to continue to demonstrate careless behaviour, as they do everywhere else. I think space is less of an issue than attitude during these times which is a real shame.

Must have been startling to be visited like that, not something anyone would appreciate ! However looking at it from that visitor's perspective, if she suspected there were visitors attending your house she was doing the responsible thing. If she was correct and you had been receiving visitors, she would still be doing the responsible thing. It feels like an imposition, but seven adults could easily raise concerns from anyone ignorant of the actual situation and her only way of checking was to ask. It probably was the number of in/out traffic that caught her eye in the first place. Now she knows and you can all crack on with whatever normality is left to enjoy !

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Lord Bath 87 (Corona)

"William rose, mons and moxtons all have a great queuing process." William Rose doesn't inside the shop! The only decent distancing is done by those queueing outside if you're lucky.

"A hard lockdown would lead to unrest within a month." By then most cases will have been identified and ended (one way or the there). "Laying it all on runners is pure projection." I haven't seen anywhere that all runners have been blamed, nor walkers excluded from blame. In face most similar threads go to lengths to underline that there is a % of all types of space user ignoring distancing guidelines.