KidKruger

I can understand that concept ruffers, I just don't see what the advantage is - or who benefits - closing weeks earlier than necessary. Don't forget we're talking about a cemetery full to capacity, with very little space for mass death events !

Yeah I think there's resilience / failover capability built into electricity feeds, to ensure as consistent and continual a supply as possible. There may be the odd glitch of a couple of seconds (as experienced the other day) if this capability is utilised.

Thanks John, that look like a greenfield cemetery with ample space for many more graves. Nunhead is definitely not !

kiera - "...cemeteries are not even mentioned in the Regulations and it makes no sense to close cemeteries while leaving parks open." This was my point earlier in the thread, ie. where is the sense in closing cemeteries across the borough when it flies in the face of parks needing to be open for people's well-being? No-one is saying cemeteries are parks, but for Nunhead cemetery specifically, it's massively utilised by those needing space rather than grieving/visiting graves. I don't know about the detail of regulation, but reducing outside spaces in the most infected borough in the UK seems like a strategy aimed at trying to spread the disease (not saying it is), when inevitably the people trying to get out each day can only utilise the remaining open space.

Not sure what you are saying pk - I was just answering your own question, again: "Why are so certain it won?t reduce infection risk?". I had literally just said why, so pasted the information again, rather than retyping. Perhaps I misunderstood, apologies if so.

PK: Why are so certain it won?t reduce infection risk? From my last post: "Like I said, this forces same population to seek their collective exercise in a reduced total available area - surely an increased risk of infection (certainly won't reduce risk of infection)." Anyway Renata has advised why now, so job done.

"The point is closing the cemetery is in line with other closures like tennis courts (which day to day are used for exercise)" I disagree. The decision to close Nunhead cemetery except for funerals is completely NOT in line with also closing tennis courts. They are different utilities entirely ! If they're gonna close Nunhead, that's like closing a park utility. Parks are open, Nunhead should too - both public spaces. Nunhead's main use is not funerals, by a country mile. Like I said, this forces same population to seek their collective exercise in a reduced total available area - surely an increased risk of infection (certainly won't reduce risk of infection).

They look good lily - and I hate korma !!

I'm not sure how you can construe that I think we're living in regular times, pk. If the cemetery (mainly the space is disused and overgrown, as I'm sure you know) has been predominantly used for decades as I've described above, why change that now ? Doesn't make sense and there's no sensible reason given yet. Walking in a cemetery isn't essential, walking in a park isn't essential, walking isn't essential. Have you an actual point ? Sorry if I've missed it.

Most of the people that use Nunhead are individuals, couples, families, dog walkers. They effectively police the place through their numbers and regular presence - there's no police or security there. To make out that these people are somehow interfering with graveside visitors is inconsistent with what goes on day-to-day there. I look forward to reading a meaningful and coherent reason (but not holding breath).

I don't think it was a competition, it was just chewing the fat on a couple of try-at-home recipes. We can all cook better curries than standard high st versions (let's face it, it's pretty easy), but sometimes a bit of curry house comfort food is desired. For me it's that madras. Last time I mentioned non-high st / authentic curries on here I got called pretentious - warning, so you may be next ! In reply to /forum/read.php?20,2106636,2107293#msg-2107293 malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I make a better curry than the > ubiquitous/formulaic UK curry house - the basic > sauce comes in large bags of dried ingredients.

Would like to know the reason formally given for this. The 'grieving families' thing is illogical, how are they more vulnerable than other cemetery users ? All it does is concentrate an already compromised population into fewer open spaces. I wonder what consequences that will have. Any Einsteins out there care to take a guess ?

Talking to my neighbours on CP Road, keeping our distance on opposite sides of pavement (I'm stood at kerb, neighbour behind front gate). A couple, running, just jog through between us. Gobsmacked wouldn't even start to explain my surprise ! WTF If I see these guys tomorrow there'll be another thread.

Any idea why Renata ? I can't think of any dangers in cemeteries that are not same in parks.

FYI. Signs on the gates saying closed until further notice. I asked the guy locking gates why - he doesn?t know why, just following orders. He did say that he thinks this is happening with all the cemeteries, but I haven?t verified that myself.

Personally I don?t believe the stuff about the virus transmitting in smoke, it wasn?t my point anyway - I was just talking about the stink and taste. Ruskin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KidKruger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > That's the exact same reason I may spit, > Twoddle. > > Bad smells or fumes one may encounter, such as > > accidentally getting a mouthful of acrid stench > > when stuck behind a smoker. We're not obliged > to > > swallow that junk, so down on the pavement it > goes > > (ideally in a drain or the gutter). > > I've been concerned about smokers too. Has anyone > read something about droplets from exhaled > cigarette and vape smoke?

That's the exact same reason I may spit, Twoddle. Bad smells or fumes one may encounter, such as accidentally getting a mouthful of acrid stench when stuck behind a smoker. We're not obliged to swallow that junk, so down on the pavement it goes (ideally in a drain or the gutter).

I'm not sure if computedshorty still uses the forum, haven't heard from him for a while. I think his wife was quite poorly and his own health was becoming a challenge. I think about him often and hope that he's OK, he provided some lovely nostalgia on SE22 and very useful and informative history.

Best you can do is politely suggest how between you (both parties) you're going to manage the distance of 2m between persons. That way they're engaged from the start and have to work with you. Failing that just stop moving and say you need 2m.

Surely bringing people together to reflect on a critical existential conundrum is a good thing ?

doody - I think the message HAS got through to all runners at this time (how could it not have), and to all walkers. It?s now about individual belligerence, which is down to personality.

wow - if this isn't WHY we should not be near each other outside at this time, I don't know what is. I hope you recover well and strong Dulwich Handy, thanks for sharing. Tough read though !

Bella, I've found that the 3-abreast scenario is generally resolved by loudly and repeatedly coughing (covering your mouth of course !) as said group nears - if you're in any doubt as to how you're gonna get the 2m distance.

Foxy, good post. I also cook curry a lot and recently found this decent recipe for life-like madras, including base gravy recipe. I agree cooking batches is an efficient way to operate and recommend this recipe. (dunno how to embed links, so just grab it and paste it).

I've thought about this and don't think gates open is sensible. Hey let's open the barrier between one space and another, thereby deleting the utility (be that safety/security). Hmmm, I think we need to consider why it was put there and the purpose it serves (and situations it helps avoid). Anyone who's had a dog or child go missing through a gate left open, had same injured or killed by traffic, will be able to explain why a gate should be closed. To say dogs (or kids presumably) should be 'under control' is IMO unrealistic. Children wander, dogs see cats, etc. Gates are there for a reason. You could leave your front door open for the same reason - postie has touched it, delivery guys have touched it, Ocado have touched it, passers-by have coughed on it if you're near the pavement. Perhaps remove handrails on buses and trains, insist shop doors are left open, remove park benches, ban shopping trolleys, as these have all been touched by the public too ? Best use a tissue or disposable glove to touch gate, then discard it when you're in the park (and same on way out) ?