KidKruger

Basically let's just get on with full lockdown. The 10-20% won't change. It's been several weeks now the advice was issued. We'll all be inconvenienced, but lives will inevitably be saved. People's inconvenience v other people's (possibly their own?) lives = no contest. Ee need to deal with this virus and relying on people's complicity is a hiding to nothing obviously.

So everyone should definitely stop keeping an eye out for this gentleman now ?

I'm sure Dulwich Park will be next. There's already distancing abuse, some of those who would go to Brockwell will switch to Dulwich, and it's likely to be a nice day again. Hard to argue it doesn't make sense - if the target is public safety.

My lurcher has been on lead for two years, he don?t like it but that?s the way it has to be. He?s an ex-hunting dog so if he can deal with it, so can other dogs. Not enough reason to close the cemetery IMO. I?m not seeing dog walkers ignoring distancing there just cos their dogs are sniffing each other, quite the opposite from my daily experience there in fact.

Yes parks for everyone.

James I thought the point of limiting nos at funerals was to avoid infections across attending crowds. Groups walking in Nunhead would be cohabiting people, according to restrictions in place - as in any park or street in the land - therefore couples or families mainly. Nunhead has no/extremely few spare plots, correct ? So, for Nunhead, a calculation has been made that deaths requiring burial there would be relatives of those already buried there, right ? That?s stretching it some, closing an entire cemetery on the off-chance that one of the few available or existing family plots will eventually have a death to allocate to it. Why not open the cemetery, to close it for the morning / afternoon that a funeral (if one is required) is held ? A funeral takes an hour tops, opening / locking gates takes 5mins. Cemetery in Nunhead closed for weeks is completely unnecessary. I?ve not yet seen an argument for closing Nunhead that seems reasonable or rational. Sorry if I?ve missed something and I?m not being disrespectful to families of those with departed relatives (corona or otherwise).

We?re not in a lockdown. We?re under specific instructions. Go to the high st or any park, lock down ? Nah.

?There?s nothing wrong with ?joggers? in and off themselves, it?s thoughtless people that are the problem.? As has been made clear already repeatedly on this and other threads. No one is saying all joggers are bad, please indicate where this has been done.

?There are just too many people in London to be able to stay 2m clear.? No. Let?s not excuse the selfish minority. London is not the problem, it?s the same in Huddersfield and Isle of Wight, everywhere. It is easy enough to be 2m apart. But people are not prepared to stick consistently to the distancing advice, which requires a little thought, patience and flexibility. This is why, having given the public a chance (and failed), full lockdown is the only obvious next step. Give people an inch, they take a mile, so they now need controlling. 700 dead yesterday anyone ?

if waiting clarification, opened the darned cemeteries.

Yep. People not keeping reasonable distance will increasingly cause confrontations between them.

yeah that's what I'm doing man city. LL is a self-entitled joke. People 'playing pandemic'. Too risky.

ed26. TBH let's just get full lockdown on. This social distancing thing is being ignored too widely, it negates efforts to provide certainty of control of virus infections. I'm interested in this being resolved asap, so we can repair asap. People have had the chance, and as usual, predictably, a minority abuse the privilege (for that's what it is now). People don't want to play, take the game away from them and lock them indoors. We need priorities here, and they don't include swanning around pretending life can carry as normal because people think it's their right. Govt being too soft now, possibly for re-election purposes, who know/who cares, just lockdown already.

The sad thing is, accidents will inevitably happen. Because they're at speed there may be harsh injury or worse and the heath services will be called-out HELLO ? we've a major issue on at the moment which is centred around hospitals and the health services.

OK. Dulwich park an hour ago. Very busy as sunny and post-breakfast. Plenty walkers joggers families. No problem. Everyone being fairly responsible with the distance thing. Missus pulls me out of a runners way. This guy is obviously an experienced and fast runner. Red and Black horizontally striped running vest, black shorts,, dark brown hair, @6ft. He ain't moving for anybody, he's in train and you're in his way, end of. No surprises, we've already ascertained above that there's a small % of assholes (whether walker or runner). OK... A few minutes later, we're sat on our coats on grass near edge of park. We see stripey approaching on his next lap, fast, he's seemingly determined to maintain his 'right' to run at chosen speed wherever he wants, breezing past walkers and joggers centimetres distance. Suddenly a Dad on a bicycle, with a toddler in seat on back, catches up with the runner and remonstrates politely about the fast runner having just brushed past him, asking why he is not keeping a responsible distance. Runner seems to try and ignore him (or hard of hearing ?). Then runner says "Feck Off" as he continues. Dad, keeping up on his bicycle, presses the query saying the guy should be more responsible. Runner pissed off screams, "I'm in a race!". Well there we have it, hot heels is in a fecking 'race' So feck the rest of you and feck the health guidelines.

Same for Nunhead Cemetery please Renata. Or pls advise (pm) contact no. and name of dept/officer to speak with.

You're a sitting duck in those queues because there's no 2m between you (if you're queueing) and everyone walking down the pavement. Both have a right to be there I guess, but wave good by to 2m, or even 2ft.

10pm last night white car going through shops on LL, at I'd say 50-55mph. Absolutely insane. fatality waiting to happen if someone is crossing road or turning out onto LL.

OK hello sailor, with you now and completely agree x hellosailor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Kid Kruger I think we?re saying the same thing. If > you?re out for a walk and respecting the 2 metre > rule, it?s not ok for joggers to bear down on you > panting and puffing and passing you by 30cm. Some > joggers have tried to justify this behaviour by > explaining that if you?re a jogger and you?ve got > a bit of a wind up you and are really enjoying > your momentum then it?s impossible or simply too > much of an ask to expect them to compromise their > momentum in order to adhere to the guidelines. The > ?if you?re having a really great run it?s kind of > tricky to be having to factor in whether you?re > invading people?s personal space yeah?? Unless > you?re Usain Bolt attempting to break the 100m > world record or extraordinarily mal coordinated > this is a complete nonsense. If you are walking > and a jogger comes up behind you then it?s their > responsibility to maintain a 2 metre distance from > you and not be breathing down your neck.

"...as latest figures showed a further 684 people with the virus died in the UK" (BBC) RIP

mancity, I walked past M%&S at 0830 today and the queue was almost to the post office, though spread out 2m, so only a dozen or so people. When I walked back past at 0900 (when I think it opens) the queue went way past the bus stop, as did PO queue too. If that helps.

It?s a binary situation, either don?t infect people or do. One of the other, your choice, every time you get near someone, HOWEVER you travel down the pavement.

?If you?re not apparently agile enough - as some people are laughably using as a justification, as if a jogger?s momentum is as unstoppable as a bullet - to swerve and distance yourself from others while out jogging then you must stay at home.? The point was that walkers are inevitably often caught off-guard, meaning they are out of control of their ?safety space?. They have little time to react, is all. That is, react to someone potentially infecting them against their will. You know, the disease that kills people, that one, get it ?! No-one is saying all walkers are cripples nor that joggers run at 1,700mph (speed of a bullet). If you don?t agree with the proposition, no need for ridiculous extremes ! Though they are funny.

because they don't care about other people and they can't be arsed to take their dog to a park. remember the post I did a few months ago when I saw a woman letting her dog shit outside the card shop on LL ? I posted her photo on here and oh dear, denials, accused of harassment, people thinking it's unfair to post that, so when you out an offender people are more concerned about YOUR behaviour than the owner's behaviour. Good luck !!

And no-one has said it is limited to joggers (people have specifically said this). But that's where the contention is, for reasons illustrated above.