RH - at what point will you cease labelling UG with those spiteful attacks ? Do you need him to acknowledge guilt for all/some of them, or even then would you still persist ? I can't speak for the rest of the forum, but personally I am aware (have seen) several times you use the same attacks, again and again. Is this to be an indefinite behaviour going forward ? I expect UG (and the entire forum) has GOT the message so why not wind it in, unless you have something additional (a new attack, perhaps ?) to stab him with. Please don't pull the "I'm standing-up for freedom" BS. All the things you accuse UG of are illegal, so if you're so convinced just call the police and make your case, you seem convinced, so convince them. Just quit the vile (are there any viler ?) attacks. Back to the subject, I think a line has to be drawn, someone left the country to join the fight with ISIS. Whether she picked-up a gun, learned how to make bombs, or agreed to take the fight to the UK, we'll never know I expect. We do know she thought it a worthy cause and went to support an outfit that would happily kill in the UK (amogst other places) if possible. I'd prefer a precedence be set that no-one, man or woman, returns to UK from such a foray. I hope this would If that's not possible due to law and rights, that's a shame and will be to the detriment of the UK's safety IMO. These are extreme times and unfortunately, against my usual view, extreme measures need adopting. We can speculate all day about her / anyone's intentions, but if she never returns she'll not partipate in / support terrorism from within the UK. And hopefully neither would anyone else else finding they can't return. Like I said, it may not be achievable due to UK hands being tied.