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Majority of people in Dulwich want LTN removed according to the council's own consultation which they chose to ignore. Many of my neighbours - sadly - voted labour, even though they are against LTN. What a complete failure this scheme is - pushing the traffic and all the dirt from your road to your neighbours', pretending it has disappeard. The height of selfishness.

The dog poo analogy sums up the LTN just perfectly.

Could not agree more. first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I second Rockets' post. We need a roads scheme > that works for all not just some.

The traffic in front of my place has not evaporated - on the contrary, since LTN were introduced, it is much worst. How long to wait for this miraculous evaporation? How long people living on the main roads / boundary roads are going to be treated with increased pollution, dirt and noise? The more roads closed, the heavier traffic on the remaining few.

What evaporation? There is no such thing - how can traffic simply disappear? Where to? Only because you don't see it near you, it doesn't mean others don't.

hpsaucey was told off many times before for login in as multiple users.

Hi Admin, the above is obviously a fake account.

Rockets, I have no illusions - four more years of arrogance and not listening to constituents.

It would be so much healthier to have different representation, not only in Southwark but London. Now not only Southwark is a one-party state, but an entire city.

Poor Londn. I wish people voted on local issues rather than trying to punish tories.

@Admin, if you benefit from the LTN it should not affect your judgement. You have archived / lounged the original LTN thread without a reason. Now you are policing / censoring this thread in a way you don't any others.

Vote Labour out. Not sure who they are representing - certainly not local residents.

I'm in Dulwich Wood and will be votng Tories - first tme ever. I hate LTN, it has made my area so much worst.

Anyone who actually lives in the area, especially on the roads impacted by the LTN can see an increase in traffic with their own eyes. heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh look.....20% more traffic on East Dulwich > Grove.... well obviously I wasn?t making it up! > https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/i > mproving-our-streets/live-projects/streetspace/tra > ffic-data-analysis > > Oh and also I was correct in this too ?No data > collected for East Dulwich Grove Central prior to > September 2021?

Fire engine delayed because of the closure of Dulwich Village junction. https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/chaotic-ltn-junction-brings-fire-engine-to-a-halt/?fbclid=IwAR07JrTnM5WaVZ8D6OwsGBQxkb97NEhywARFmbrS0zUiyBfQi0uGoRUzStM

@Admin, following on Rockets question may we please see the rules of this forum? Where do they come from? And how did I break it (following your comments after I posted One Dulwich update; many of which were posted here before)?

I will vote anyone who promises to remove LTN - unjust and harming vanity project that should have never ever been implemented.

I am confused - is this to do with me pasting the One Dulwich update? If so, do you care to elaborate? It is about LTN. Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Last warning. > > The subject is "LTN in East Dulwich Discussion"

One Dulwich update: "Local elections 5 May 2022 The countdown to the elections has begun, but only the Labour Party has so far declared candidates for all local wards. We should hear final news of all candidates by 5 April. Why the decision on the LTNs is unsafe Our latest News piece can be found here. National media focus on Dulwich fines On 30 March, Janice Turner in The Times highlighted the ?6.6 million raised in fines. ?I find it extraordinary that a revenue model, replicated across the country, can be introduced without consultation. ?Low Traffic Neighbourhoods? create winners and losers, quiet residential streets v congested bus routes. In Dulwich and elsewhere they will be a red-hot May election issue.? On 1 April, Harry Wallop in the Daily Mail wrote about LTNs across the country ? councils? bogus data, and the difficulties caused to residents with disabilities ? and Dulwich?s ?astonishing? fines again got a mention. Confusing signage On 31 March, a local resident tweeted a picture of an ambulance driver in Court Lane who refused to believe that the Dulwich Village junction was open to emergency vehicles. In response, Cllr Margy Newens tweeted that emergency vehicles can and do drive anywhere, but promised to ask Southwark Highways to alert the LAS to the new situation. ?Obvs LAS must update its systems and drivers.? Surely this is missing the point. Shouldn?t Southwark be putting more effort into improving signage at this confusing junction (something the LAS has already requested)? Or maybe ? thinking again about the ?6.6 million raised in fines ? the poor signage across Dulwich is actually because the Council doesn?t really want anything to be made clear at all?"

"At times I've asked myself the question: is this a straight debate amongst neighbours about the best way to reduce traffic, or is it being used by some to push a wider but concealed political agenda?" I think exactly the same about the opaque Clean Air Dulwich or Friends of Dulwich Square - have the friends of the closed Dulwich Village junction stopped for a minute to think how this closure will affect their neighbours on South Circular or Lordship Lane? Why is their need to have the roads closed so they can cycle there is more important than my desire to have rush hours twice a day instead of all day long in front of my flat?

"Why not stick to the real issues of the best ways to reduce traffic and car use?" - LTN does not help with this. At all. How such a detached from reality and unjust scheme could ever see a daylight is unfathomable. I agree with Rockets that to a certain degree it is a class war or rather money have/have not. The most polluted roads are the main roads. Why did I buy a flat on such a road? Because it was cheaper. Did I expect peace and quiet? Of course not. I was dreading it; thankfully, you can get used to it, to a certain degree at least and you keep thinking it?s not for ever. What did LTN do to the main roads? Pushed more traffic onto them, creating more stationary traffic and making them more polluted and noisy as a consequence. What did Southwark council do to help to improve air quality and tackle the noise issue on the main roads? Nothing. By introducing LTN they made it worst. At the same time, they had no problem with closing roads like Court Lane ? already peaceful and quiet, where hardly anyone can afford to buy a house. I don?t drive and never owned a car. I asked few neighbours what would make them to stop driving or drive less ? they said that it would only be a price of driving, if it becomes too expensive. They hate LTN, they are stuck in the traffic for much longer now, have to take all sorts of detours but have no intention to ditch their cars. Public transport is also crucial and yet it becomes worst and worst. Bus frequency has been reduced and bus routes senselessly altered (nr 40). Trains frequency has been reduced; tickets fares are ridiculously high for what Southern offers; trains from London Bridge to ED or Forest Hill are delayed and cancelled more often than not and yet Govia has been granted new 3 yrs contract.

Agree Heartblock - time for a change.

Nothing more dodgy than Southwark labour councillors association with property developers.

It is just like Clean Air Dulwich - ferocious pro LTN supporters - cannot find a single name on the internet as to who these people are. Friends and families of the local labour councillors? Who knows?

As long as the one party state which is Southwark is broken up am ok with it. Plus there finally will be someone who wants LTN removed.