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Well, just wait for labour to win general election - they will ban all vehicles and pedestrians full stop. No buses, no ambulances, no delivery lorries. It will only be cyclists and eScooters :)

If you are stuck in this traffic - or any traffic for that matter - please do not honk. It doesn't help the situation and you make it so much worst for people who happen to live there.

I've emailed them also, will be contacting TfL as well. It is urgent repair apparently and yet no one is there and nothing will happen over the weekend either, like on the College Rd.

JOIN THE PROTEST – AND PLEASE ENCOURAGE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBOURS TO GET INVOLVED Southwark’s latest plans for the middle of Dulwich Village include • closing Turney Road, and • blocking the junction to Blue Badge holders, SEND vehicles, carers, and NHS workers like GPs and nurses. In the past our voices have been ignored. But there’s a growing body of evidence to show that LTNs aren’t working (see “LTNs DON’T CUT TRAFFIC”, below) and – thanks to your emails – Southwark’s new CEO is now aware of the strong local opposition to the Dulwich scheme. So, if you haven’t already done so, please take a few minutes to object – and nudge family, friends and neighbours to make their voices heard. HOW TO OBJECT 1. Fill in the survey Southwark has extended the deadline for the survey to 20 November. You will have your own views, but our thoughts are: • Question 2 We suggest you answer ‘Don’t support’, as no evidence has been provided to suggest that any of the core objectives could be delivered. • Question 3 Please ask the Council to allow access for Blue Badge holders, GPs, community nurses and midwives, SEND transport and social care workers so that the most vulnerable in the community are looked after. • Question 4 Please object to the closure of Turney Road because there is no information about the likely impact on access or traffic displacement on to surrounding roads. (“Frequently Asked Questions” doesn’t consider the wider area – Croxted Road, for example – but raises the possibility of yet more road closures in mitigation.) • Question 5 cannot be answered, because there is no way of rejecting both design proposals and Questions 6 and 7 are irrelevant. We suggest you leave all these blank. 2. Make a complaint – or escalate an existing complaint Email complaints@southwark.gov.uk to say (in your own words if possible) why you think the consultation process on the design of the Dulwich Village junction is deeply flawed. Your reasons could include any of the following: • we have been given insufficient information to show the likely impact of the closure to motorised vehicles of either a) Turney Road, or b) two out of the four arms of the junction, in terms of access or traffic displacement to the wider Dulwich area; • we were promised that engagement would take place with local people (residents, businesses, campaign groups) BEFORE concept designs were presented (Phase 1 interviewed only a ‘representative sample’ – and didn’t ask where people lived – so did not capture the views of the community); • the deadline of 20 November is too rushed – only a few local groups have been given meetings with the Council; • the online survey does not allow respondents to reject both design options; • no local councillor is willing to champion the needs of residents or businesses who object to the scheme; • no council officer is willing to act on legitimate concerns raised by local people about the lack of motorised access for those with protected characteristics, or for those who care for them. If you are not happy with the response you receive (and we have yet to hear of anyone who is, as specific questions and concerns are not addressed), please take your complaint to the next stage. See Southwark’s website for details. 3. Email Southwark’s new chief executive Email althea.loderick@southwark.gov.uk to explain (in your own words if possible) why the consultation process is flawed (use any of the reasons above). 4. Sign the epetition There’s an epetition on Southwark’s website (not ours but we support its aims) asking the Council to ensure access through the junction for the most vulnerable. Southwark assures us that all the long-running technical problems have now been fixed, but you may need to change your password before you can sign. 5. Contact One Dulwich if you’re a Blue Badge holder If you’re a Blue Badge holder or otherwise car-dependent, or know or care for someone who is, please contact us at onedulwich@gmail.com and tell us how the junction closure is affecting you. Southwark could easily have contacted all local Blue Badge holders to ask for their views but hasn’t done so, so we plan to help them out by passing on this vital information. LTNs DON’T CUT TRAFFIC More evidence is emerging that LTNs are not cutting traffic – one of the main reasons for imposing them. According to an investigation by the Times, Department for Transport (DfT) figures show that vehicle miles driven rose by an average of 11.4% in the ten inner London boroughs that introduced LTNs in 2020. By contrast, in the two inner London boroughs that didn’t introduce LTNs, vehicle miles driven rose by an average of only 8.9%. (In Southwark, which has ten LTNs, vehicle miles driven rose by 13% between 2020 and 2021.) The figures don’t prove a link between LTNs and more miles being driven, but they do bear out what people in Dulwich see every day – that traffic isn’t evaporating but is just being displaced, and that journeys are much longer because of the road closures. This investigation comes hot on the heels of revisions to DfT data, as we reported last month. The original data suggested that traffic had risen by almost 60% on minor roads in London between 2009 and 2019. Supporters of LTNs used this startling figure to justify road closures. But the revised DfT data shows that traffic on London’s minor roads has risen by a grand total of…zero. In their main editorial on 26 October, the Times described LTNs as “an expensive and infuriating failure” and called on councils to “listen to the complaints and rethink hastily imposed schemes”. We couldn’t agree more.

Dulwch labour councillors are a disgrace. Ideologs of the worst kind. This should be investigated. Can residents file an official complaint against the council?

I live in the area too and I like it except the traffic which is awful. True about the lack of shops; the few opposite the derelict pub I call the 70ties - nothing there except for a flower shop. Rather dodgy take-aways, always fly tipping at the pavements. It's always the very last part of LL to have the leaves cleared in autumn.

Update from One Dulwich below. Respond to the consultation – deadline 30 October. Southwark labour councillors are just like Mistrust and Quasi: pure ideologists with no real data to support their claims and yet they are set on their destructive path. Campaign Update | 26 Oct[/b] 1. Respond to the consultation – deadline 30 October: /posting.php?mode=reply&t=2254104 If you haven’t already done so, please give your views on the “Dulwich Village – streets for people” consultation as soon as possible. (You might want to consider some of the concerns raised in point 3, below.) 2. Sign the epetition: ePetition: https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?HPID=6018417&ID=50000032&RPID=6018417 Not our petition, but we support its aims. Recurring technical difficulties have made it very difficult for people to sign. Please keep trying. You may have to change your password multiple times before you’re allowed to proceed. 3. Escalate your complaint Many of you have got in touch to say that you emailed complaints@southwark.gov.uk[/b] and received a generic response from Head of Highways Dale Foden which you don’t feel answers any of the points you have made. If this is the case, please take your complaint to the next level. Go to Southwark’s website: https://www.southwark.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/complaints-comments-and-compliments/making-a-complaint and click on “Escalation to review stage form”. Your summary of the reasons why you are unhappy with the initial response could say that the concerns you raised have not been addressed because (include any of the following): The Council has not considered the effect of closing two arms of the junction on surrounding roads in terms of traffic displacement; The Council has not considered the needs of vulnerable road-users and those who care for them, especially Blue Badge holders, SEND transport, NHS workers like GPs, community nurses and midwives, and carers; The Council has not considered the connectivity of the road network (as we see from the tailbacks and congestion whenever there is a burst water main or roadworks), even though it has a statutory network management duty to do so; The Council has provided no evidence to show that its current proposals would improve safety for all road users; The Council has gone back on its promise that engagement would take place with local people (residents, businesses and campaign groups) BEFORE concept designs were presented – Phase 1 was limited to interviewing a “representative sample” of those using the junction, and didn’t ask where people lived, so did not capture the views of the local community; The online survey does not allow respondents to reject both design options. 4. Ask for a meeting The Council says it is providing an extensive consultation process, and welcomes input from all local groups. If your local group or association hasn’t yet done so, please email streetspace@southwark.gov.uk to ask for a meeting. Thank you for your support. Best wishes, The One Dulwich Team

Get rid of bike & scooter companies who only care about profit = less rubbish, more safe space for pedestrians and better for enviroment

Saw it on my way from Forest Hill station. And this crap has now entered Dulwich Park as well. It must be banned, its nothing else but producing and scattering even more rubbish around, as if there was not enough already!

Definitely not in supermarkets. Jones of Brockley has white sourdough bread and baguettes which keep well. Horniman market has a good choice on Sundays; bought a loaf in Beetroot & Beans in Forest Hiil the other day and it still good.

Or simply get rid of the trash altogether and return the space to pedestrians. Council need to find a different way of making money.

Not a driver myself but hearing from those who drive - this is a money making exercise and nothing else. High time for One Dulwich to perk up the 'Remove unjustified road closures' campaign.

These bikes are very heavy and not at all easy to move. They shouldn't be there in the first place full stop. It's nothing else but producing and scattering more rubbish around - and taking space from pedestrians. One was left in front of the Guy's hospital recently, right in the middle of a pavement; a patient tripped over, thankfully nothing happened.

LTN is a con perpetrated by people like leemings & co (= southwark lab concillors) - the sooner all are removed the better

I think only UCC at King's is run by a private company - Greenbrook Healthcare. It has become a complete disaster . I was there a couple of months ago - I waited for nine hours, after which I went to St Thomas' and got help straight away.

Bungled email shows Labour councillor tried to suppress damning LTN report, claim residents Cllr Leeming said the report "MUST NOT" be sent to local residents https://southwarknews.co.uk/featured/exclusive-bungled-email-shows-labour-councillor-tried-to-suppress-damning-ltn-report-claim-residents/?fbclid=IwAR2f_tmw5TxjOR_LxZASZJi-MpNe9VSdFU0-nWn9PSkkVQCgS5rMG5trJWw

Croxted and Norwood Road congestion caused by LTN says TfL report https://southwarknews.co.uk/featured/croxted-and-norwood-road-congestion-caused-by-ltn-says-tfl-report/?fbclid=IwAR1HHYp57FxEEUPGraXnL15IpIG36Tpoo5bWWzJ6OV3C34YYOHp-skDjMh4

impossible; not from someone who is detached from reality CPR Dave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > {Please can you demonstrate your balance by > pointing out all the articles you have written > about LTNs that don't work?

he's got till end of June. wouldn't hold my breath CPR Dave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Happy to wait, Peter.

no idea who jmmywhathisname is and could not care less. The reality is that road cloures - so callled ltn or htn more like it - push traffic onto the already busy and polluted roads like Lordship Lane, poisoining people living and using these roads with even more pollution, dirt and noise. How is this compatible with labour principles?

Rockets,this is a lost cause (in many ways). Anyway. I've just cancelled my years long subscription of The Guardian - courtesy of Peter Walker - enough is enough. The Guardian think it is ok to advertise t-shirts for ?150, hotel stays for ?500 per night and plastic fruit bowls for ?200 just because they're 'designer' and yet they have no problem with trumpeting the LTNs as a solution to all that is wrong with the world (eco - wise), even though it is harming so many people! The hypocrisy is astounding!

Eh? Waseley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tried not to post on this matter Mr/Mrs R but this > is another level of ridiculousness. Working in > London for many years an hour was a reasonable > commute. Many spent much longer. You just > manipulate everything to justify your immovable > views. Hopefully won't post again, but you may > put something down even more ludicrous.

For the council and ltn supporters it means shifting your shit to your neighbours' and feeling great because you don't see it on your doorstep anymore. Hence it has evaporated. In a meantime in the real world: half term - What A Bliss

On that note: all impacted by LTN please do keep sending feedback to Southwark Council. No one there gives a shit but at least you know you have done something. I hope one day people responsible for LTN will be held to account.

All the LTN has achieved so far is to redirect traffic from quiet roads to already very busy roads. It is a complete disaster. Sending your traffic to your neighbours roads does not solve anything. Only because you cannot see the traffic anymore it does not mean it has disappeared - it has moved TO YOUR NEIGHBOURS' ROAD.