That would be much less fun though, Ted. Seriously though.. I have some acquaintances also 'big in coding'. They too have skateboards, eat sushi and do other 'cool' things too.. in an effort to sprinkle a touch of fairy-dust glamour around the sheer tedium of doing a job that, quite frankly, no-one gives two tits about apart from the small group of other people who do exactly the same thing. All borderline Aspergers, of course, but then that comes with the territory. At least they do seem to have avoided the delusional God-complex that SKS has acquired - but then they probably didn't quite spend all their formative teen years in a darkened bedroom, bumming themselves with a Quick-Shot II and dreaming of 'a life in computing' (an oxymoron). Isn't this fun! Trading insult on the internet.. ooh, hang-on, that's just for the morons innit. Oh yeah.. Dammit...I'm late for my shift at the toilet brush factory now.