JohnL

amac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jenny1 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > A fair and clear assessment. > > > > I'm old enough to remember the 1970s, when our > > status as 'The sick man of Europe' forced us to > go > > 'cap in hand to the IMF'. It was famously the > time > > of the 'brain drain'. That's already started > > again. Without a dramatic change of course, > it's > > very clear what our destination is now going to > > be. And my honest assessment is that there's > > no-one on the political stage with the vision, > > leverage and courage to change that. I hope I'm > > proved wrong. > > > > I agree that this is a key, and worrying, > point. > > > > Loz Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > The political centre has been > > > abandoned, and that is never a good sign. In > a > > > country like Great Britain, that for so long > had > > a > > > reputation for pragmatism and rationality, it > > is > > > grounds for real concern. > > > Interesting comments. But this current > divisiveness is not so black and white. I know > Labour voters who (though they don't like > admitting it) agree with Mogg and co on Brexit. I > know dyed in the wool Tories who are aghast at the > prospect of leaving the EU (the trade bloc that > helps us - as Brexiters, without irony, remind us > ? be the 6th largest economy in Europe). > Essentially, the problem is that far too many of > us Brits have allowed opinion to overwhelm fact, > have not learned their history (some of the second > world war justifications are so so clueless), > appear unable to cooly analyse our situation, have > not listened to independent voices but have chosen > prejudiced ill-informed rabble rousers. It's > happened before and it'll happen again. It's > stupid. But I still hope that the Centre can be > revitalised and made more attractive - it's no > coincidence that this is all happening at a time > when we look a bold, charismatic centrist > politician who has a vision of the future. Find > that person and we can put this right. And yet on some specific policies (such as gender recognition) Theresa May is pushing a much more social centrist agenda than many others. I don't understand her sometimes - however seeing her creep around the fringes of international summits out of synch with every other leader doesn't give me confidence in her. https://www.indy100.com/article/transgender-rules-reform-gender-recognition-act-2004-dysphoria-theresa-may-8427476

What she said: No one wants a good deal more than me. But the EU should be clear. I will not overturn the results of the referendum nor will I break up my country. We need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations. And we stand ready. What she meant: I will cave in after the Conservative Party conference https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-10-downing-street-statement-what-she-said-meant-translation-a8548726.html

UK is leaving the EU not vice-versa. This is going to end in her resignation. Edit: As I said 6 months ago the EU have offered 1. Norway 2. Canada. Boris is now saying he'd take Canada - you have a Devil's alliance. Edit Again: And I assume Boris would throw NI under a bus :)

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > flocker spotter Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > its ok EDF > > > > the jobs lost will be in the provinces. no need > to > > worry too much about things. You have the > luxury > > of detachment. > > Yes. Many do. But others, like me, on a small > disability pension, do not. My main concern, like > that of many people, is that the NHS and social > care will be further eroded in the wake of the > economic damage caused by Brexit. That idiot John Redwood wants tax cuts - and says we can have it from the 39 Billion we are not going to pay the EU. I expected tax increases this autumn (even if indirect ones) - for the NHS and Social Care.

Theresa May will be down soon then ... without a flack jacket.

We might still buy Dutch stuff but pay more (maybe quite a bit more) for it. That depends on how prosperous we feel post Brexit.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'm trying to work out why the arch-Brextremist > > Telegraph ran this headline. > > Hard to be sure without seeing the full text of > the article, but I would guess either > > 1) They temporarily remembered they're supposed to > do some proper journalism, or > > 2) They figured all their readers instinctively > hate the French so this will fire them up to > further venom against 'Foreigners'. At a guess option 2 :) But May doesn't need to climb down in Europe - just at home. She can go Canada with the Brexiteers Norway with Labour Otherwise it's an election, referendum or no deal.

news is so depressing. Theresa May embarrassing, John Redwood as crazy as ever. The leader of UKIP making islamophobic statements on air (I'll be surprised if he doesn't get a visit from the police).

A few more banks having issues today - Nat West included. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/natwest-rbs-ulster-bank-down-online-mobile-banking-service-latest-when-back-up-a8548111.html

Sky News are calling yesterday the "Salzburg Snub" I don't know where we go from here - As a remainer I say Peoples Vote (maybe now with 4 options Remain, Norway, Canada, No Deal) done by STV. There's no time left unless we extend A50.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ha ha! All bog standard negotiation posturing. > Nobody who knows about negotiating would be > surprised by any of what has been emanating from > the EU for the last 12 months in terms of > posturing. It's only the UK that seems intent on > signalling what we consider to be weaknesses in > our negotiating position. Anyone who places much > weight on posturing from the other side during a > negotiation is displaying considerable naivety. > > As if the Dutch PM knows what preparations > have/are taking place in the UK. Moreover, he of > all people knows that the Netherlands has failed > to prepare for a no deal scenario in extremely > important respects and must now be worried. The > letter leaked yesterday from within the EU (about > how the Netherlands and other countries cannot be > ready and will suffer serious consequences) made > that very clear indeed in respect of aviation! I agree it's negotiation - but they just seem so much better at it than us - this tweet from Peston actually makes you feel sorry for her - the girl being excluded from the in crowd at school. You get the feeling it was all planned.

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It happened before apparently - exactly the same in the late 1990s with the same conclusion according to this from August https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/08/croydon-cat-killer-hunt-three-years-man-myth and look at this one from the states where they caught the cat killer https://www.courthousenews.com/hes-not-a-serial-cat-killer-after-all/

sjw Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This report is absolute rubbish--IMO-- I have > never heard of a fox ritualistically laying out a > body on the doorstep of the cats home. Maybe foxes are trying to tell us something in that case.

Faisal Islam's summary of the Salzburg summit PM: it?s my Chequers Deal or No Deal Tusk: EU27 agree Chequers ?will not work? Dutch PM: Netherlands is more prepared than UK for No Deal French PRes: UK politicos who sold Brexit are ?liars?

I always assume someone, somewhere has studied this in detail (as part of a thesis perhaps). If not it's crying out for it - four years to come to this conclusion ?

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But it's not a sop if we're not getting it. Our > transport gets worse and worse as they build more > and more flats. Agreed - Why should residents of Camberwell and Peckham now support the Bakerloo Line extension (obviously there are some reasons) - especially as it seems public funding is now needed to make up the cost (which will increase).

The station in Camberwell was a sop in return for supporting the Bakerloo line extension through OKR. TFL have also confirmed no Bakerloo line extension stop at Bricklayers Arms - maybe the whole project is being scaled back ... notice at the end of the article "if funding is secured" - we're talking post Brexit. https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/tfl-rules-out-bricklayers-arms-tube-station-in-bakerloo-line-extension-plans/

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know it's not about "losing stuff". I thought I > explained, my theory is that carrying less > valuables can make you feel less vulnerable. > Perhaps it is only a psychological thing, but > nevertheless it works for me. That's rather individual. I've actually thought of carrying the "fake wallet" etc, I certainly wouldn't wear a Rolex (I don't even wear a watch) - but I would carry an iPhone XS (I'm not prepared to sacrifice that). At one time I'd have loved a small moped - but just wouldn't now.

Cressida Dick said recently the main problem is lack of resources not use of the current ones. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/11/met-boss-calls-latest-police-pay-award-a-punch-on-the-nose

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Problem: someone you don't know is at the door > asking for money. > Solution: don't give them any. The problem with all solutions is they then try and get you into a "to and fro" about it, so you need to end it fast and unequivocally.

ed26 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I often find it easier to get a train through to > Herne Hill and hop on the 37. I find the return trip worse too and I've used the Sutton train - but insert "pint at the Commercial"

LOL you turn your airline over - set the aerofoils so you are flying upside down perfectly - then realise the fuel inlets at the fuel tank are at the bottom of the plane DOH.

So why would he want a lift - or just part of the scam ?

but Denzel Washington did it ! Aerobatic planes have special designs I think :0