JohnL

"The researchers found that full lockdowns were 'not associated' with decreased mortality from Covid-19" Obviously but I'm not sure that decreasing mortality (% of those who contract the COVID-19 virus that die) is the aim of a lockdown. A lockdown stops a huge number of people getting very ill at the same time and also buys time.

Hex (base 16) surely still being taught or how do they understand a IPv6 or MAC address.

Some landlords are more formal some are not but obviously it's past the leave day and the contract will say whats what. I had Landlords who would let me get away with murder (not literally) when I rented but the same ones would also turn up out the blue to show someone around or ask for some favour (technically breaching your peace and quiet so what goes around comes around in terms of formality). The very first landlord I had I never saw - just an agent and then only 3 times in 2 years - and it was a lovely flat in Docklands but they'd have thrown the book at me if I broke the rules. Many would prefer this arrangement.

The area where the Lido used to be could do with landscaping if that's what you mean. The revival of the Lido looks a bit pie in the sky. Was that spring The Peck ?

LOL reminds me that France were once going for a 10 month year - it got abandoned :)

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > malumbu Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > We should all use KM, trouble is we are a > backward > > nation, not as backward as the US. Backward is > of > > course a relative term and used to stress the > > point. > > Boy > Imagine the cost of replacing every road sign in > the UK from miles to km > > Still not to worry, we're getting pounds shillings > and pence back soon 🤔 When I was young every signpost in Wales was English only and someone made it their job to cover every one with green paint. These days every sign is bilingual with Welsh first. Mind You it works both ways with the loss of our EU status - I brought 48 cans of Brewdog last week and 16 of them were made in the USA and had 12 fluid Oz instead of 330 ml

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Whilst it is not going to be a popular opinion, > > the government are doing everything they can to > > balance the economy and save lives but, and > this > > is a big but, we all need to step up and > protect > > ourselves > > Well I have to agree with you there, it's > certainly not popular with me. > > The government has squandered billons on a track > and trace contract, subcontracted all over the > place. It appears none of them have any experience > with this sort of thing. Track, trace and isolate > is meant to be a key aspect of inhibiting the > spread of the virus. The world beating app is from > Div.4 it seems. > > I'd have more sympathy for the government if they > hadn't been dishing out contracts to friends and > friends of friends. This is inexcusable and > corrupt at the same time. Add to that the fact > that the cabinet is made up of Johnson/Cummings > yes men/women who only got their jobs due to > supporting BJ's Brexit blindly, and you have a > group of ministers not fit for the positions they > hold. > > This government has a lot to answer for. Can't see Dido Harding lasting much longer - she really has been not brilliant, but then has Boris ever sacked anybody he appointed.

We don't need a vaccine to improve the death rate and general treatment though - that will improve due to drugs that help treat Covid and other methods of care - and as with HIV it'll be a cocktail of drugs. This second wave will show us a lot in terms of deaths. The question of long term effects still remains - that's still seen as almost a myth when it really isn't. Then there's re-infection - that needs to be answered. Surely someone is also studying social distancing and the best way to proceed whilst effecting people and society as little as possible whilst having maximum effect on transmission. Even the tiers aren't Boris or Dom ideas - they come from other countries - Ireland has had tiers for a while. Maybe there won't be a vaccine and we will have to live with it - but the effects will get less rather than more I'd hope.

This thread sort of sums it up. Nobody knows.

SO Liverpool locked down .... except Wetherspoons Doesn't take much guessing what will happen. Edit: I'm still trying to work out if you can order 10 pints with your packet of pork scratchings or only one

The more you go out the more you'll forget the above. If you go out once a day or less it's pretty easy - if you're rushing around back and for you'll forget unless you're careful.

I'd just assume it was somebody who's business wasn't important enough to wait - unless it happened multiple times - then it does begin to sound like a variation on the babysitting urban myth :). this bits my favorite and the one to watch for "The babysitter does check on the children each time, with her noticing a creepy clown statue that she assumes was just a part of the decor, but ends up being the man in question. She learns this when she mentions it to the mother via phone call, who alerts her to the fact that they don?t have a clown statue."

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > @serena2012 a fair enough, I do think there are > > legitimate criticisms of the way the council > has > > gone about this and the way that they are > > measuring the impacts. I don?t doubt that there > > are many with genuine concerns. But there are > at > > least as many who are simply annoyed that it?s > > harder for them to drive short journey and use > > side streets as cut throughs. > > > > The Village changes are challenging, because it > is > > such an affluent area - it?s east for people to > > cry foul. Rye Lane less so though. And across > > London, we are now seeing car journeys increase > to > > above those of pre lockdown levels, due to > people > > wishing to avoid public transport. This makes > it > > more urgent to create some spaces which are > > ?relatively? congestion free, so that there are > > alternative routes for those wishing to walk > and > > cycle. I?m confident that the local LTNs have > led > > to fewer car journeys. I know I can?t prove it > > (this is where the council should be doing a > > better job collecting the data) but I see the > > number of kids walking down Melbourne Gtive and > > Carlton Avenue to school. I see it and my own > > experience is that I?m using the car less too. > > Those campaigning to ?get rid? of LTNs aren?t > > offering much by way of realistic alternatives > and > > I don?t consider ?spreading the pain so that > all > > areas are congested? to be an alternative. > > > > Apologies for typos- typing on the go > > Rahrahrah - at last, something we can agree on. I > agree too that the LTNs have led to fewer car > journeys but, paradoxically, Covid was already > doing that as people reassessed their transport > means in light of the pandemic. Yet the numbers of > people able to make the change aren't sufficiently > high enough to have a positive macro impact on the > rest of the area as traffic is funnelled down > fewer roads. > > Look at that data I shared on the Waltham Forest > LTN. There was a 28% increase in traffic on a road > 3.1 miles from the LTN after it went in. Surely > the only rational explanation for that is the > displacement from the LTN is creating a > displacement tsunami? And remember that Waltham > Forest LTN happened well before Covid so you > cannot pin that increase on that. > > And stop defaulting to the weak "get rid of and > not offering alternatives" narrative. There have > been plenty offered on here - none of which the > pro-closure lobby is seemingly keen to discuss. I > wonder why?

Every year of fuel duty freeze means something else has to give because of the way budgets are calculated. "The issue is that the Office for Budget Responsibility, which provides independent forecasts for the government, assumes that fuel duty will rise by inflation every year ? despite all evidence to the contrary." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/04/treasury-raise-fuel-duty-chancellors-freeze

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This on top of the cricket games attracting crowds > on Rye Lane really concerns me that people have > become covid nonchalant which may well come back > to bite them ! Nobody hit a six big enough to get to me :) The pubs still sticking to masks unless you're seated at a table as far as I know - people seem to feel safe outside I think, but we have no idea of the infectiousness of this in the cold rainy weather. What's known as long covid is a bit of an unknown - it might be rare, but it's not impossible that it'll take away a bit of a persons lung/vascular capacity every time it hits.

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's easy to pluck some random "scientist" out of > the air with a contrary view - but you need to > back up their bonafides > > be it promotion of tobacco, climate change or > economists for brexit we hear the same thing - > "the experts are divided" - but it's never really > true - a small number of outliers are held up as > "balance" - but the core message remains true > > https://www.wired.co.uk/article/great-barrington-d > eclaration-herd-immunity-scientific-divide The BBC and others are causing this issue with it's "we must always provide an opposing view" If a scientist is on saying the world is round we must for balance have another saying the world is flat.

He doesn't want to get rid of the 10PM curfew and revert to midnight/1:00am opening - he wants to ban all drinking in pubs I think

The problem is the people who turn bluetooth off or don't install the app will be the people who are out most and don't do any social distancing I bet.

PeckhamNicola Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Am I right that it works using Bluetooth, and if > so does it eat through battery power like crazy? and if you want a quick pint and don't want to be seen and are irresponsible. Just turn bluetooth off.

Because the government gives money on a spend it or lose it basis. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/yorkshire-councils-left-sink-or-swim-says-labours-ed-miliband-ps140m-business-grants-are-handed-back-2997739

peckhamside Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I support road closures generally. I guess this > will reduce traffic up the whole of PR East side > and re route it to West side. This will make it > easier for cyclists going South who currently have > cars restlessly revving behind them as they slow > down up the hill. We're not allowed to turn right on peckham rye westside going south - so it means an alternative route (and as stated above I'd use consort road.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rather than reach for the keyboard and go straight > to this site does anyone actually reach for the > keyboard and e-mail their councillor? It's > democracy, they have a manifesto, you vote them > in, they attempt to deliver their manifesto. All > this whinging is simply undermining a long > established way of devolving government. And of > course if you are that unhappy report back > afterwards and ultimately stand for election > yourself. We had this argument in my block about planning permission - and the consensus is it's already decided before we are "consulted".

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I dont mind the Welsh, but I cant understand a > word they say after the rugby As Trump retweeted today when Biden wins the USA will become like Wales Cymru am Byth https://nation.cymru/news/bidens-us-will-be-like-wales-donald-trump-retweets-criticism-of-welsh-government-lockdowns/

Friernlocal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This a known bug with the app. It was highlighted > a few day's ago in a BBC article. The article > explained that this can be triggered by the system > if you have been close to someone but your contact > doesn't meet the criteria for isolation, i.e. > within two metres for 15 minutes. If it were a > genuine alert an automatic 14 day isolation > countdown would be shown in red on the home screen > of the app. This one - alerts that disappear ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54389083

If they use Excel when ?2 Billion has been spent you really need to wonder whats going on. I have seen reassurance that the people that did that weren't involved in the app.