JohnL

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd be interested in getting a whereisboris app... Seeems a boris app is "Behavioral Observation Research Interactive Software" Just what one might use for monitoring ... Boris.

Are people really going to put an app on their phones made by Palantir and Faculty. I usually tend to leave bluetooth disabled anyway. https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/22/palantir-coronavirus-contract-did-not-go-to-competitive-tender/ https://www.digitalhealth.net/2020/04/nhs-partners-with-tech-giants-to-develop-covid-19-data-platform/ https://www.economist.com/britain/2020/03/26/palantir-a-data-firm-loved-by-spooks-teams-up-with-britains-health-service

I don't believe in IQ or intelligence per se There's a lot more that makes up a person than solving puzzles - which in my view can be quite easily taught. Some people who did badly at school do brilliantly in a different environment later. Hitler had very little emotional intelligence IMHO however - probably due to his history.

binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Increase in calls to helplines from young people > who are struggling to manage at home with parents > problematic drinking :-( > > https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-calls-to-ch > arity-double-as-children-struggle-in-lockdown-with > -alcoholic-parents-11981408 People aren't drinking more whatever the papers say - they are drinking more at home where it's noticed and nothing in the Pubs and Restaurants. Mind you like other things it's a poor persons/overcrowded housing issue. It shows the role pubs play (good or bad), I notice many (more well off) people on twitter have designed and built their own bars during the lockdown (in the shed or spare room) and it's a thing to show them off. https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2020/05/04/What-were-beer-sales-like-in-pubs-in-March-2020

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m concerned that we have potentially overplayed > the fatality figures by adding Corona as a cause > of death, not as the sole cause of death unlike > other countries. For example you could have > terminal cancer in its final stages, and very mild > corona symptoms, but if you died, you?d be > recorded as a corona victim ? even if you only had > it in the mildest of ways. > While there is no suggestion that having it is not > a factor in these deaths, it makes people assume > that its perhaps more lethal than may actually be > the case compared to other reporting rates. There > is some good work done on this by the Guardian > around how nations record fatalities in very > different ways. > The next question is how many who have died of > Corona would have died anyway, probably in fairly > short order? It?s a blunt question but when you > listen to accounts of people in their late 90s > dying (or in one case I heard a 105 year old) then > you need to ask if we?re overemphasing the impact > its having. Many of those impacted would almost > certainly have had underlying health conditions > that probably played a very significant part here > ? not COVID itself. This doesn't fit with the people I've known who have died where they may have been ill and had been ill for many years but they were hanging on in there - then COVID19 finished them off - but who knows if they would have lasted 3, 5 or 10 years further ? Where do you draw the line - we all have a death day coming ?

I think some people actually thrive in lockdown (I read that there are a proportion who's mental health improves under these conditions for various reasons) - of course it all depends how much space you have. Beginning to think it maybe me as I'm alone, can set an exercise regime, get things done I've put off for years, drink less etc.

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What in heavens name do you intend to do with 60 > eggs? They've a shelf life of about 7 - 10 days > MAX. mine last 3 weeks or so and i keep them in the fridge (we never used to)- i know they are better fresh for poaching or frying - I try and use older ones for other things. I've never had the misfortune of opening a bad egg :)

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't see how it is the Palmerstons fault people > are sitting on fixed benches outside their closed > pub. What exactly have you reported them for? > Owning outdoor furniture? I assume the police would turn up with a loud speaker and move people on rather than do anything with the owners.

Robbie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Trump clearly asked his medical advisor if she > could look into injecting disinfectant as an > effective solution. The hysteria from the > mainstream news over this, and the way they > twisted his words should give us clues as to what > their agenda is. and as he did so she moved her legs together very pointedly and cringed with embarrassment (the body language was so obvious). It's obvious what she thought of his question

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think we are overreacting. There arew plenty of > bad bugs out there, and in time we will agree a > death rate that is acceptable including this one. > The harm it is doing is to our economy and > community and the sooner we stop hiding away and > going back to work, the more likely it is we will > survive. > > I absolutely agree vulnerable people should > shield, as they should for any nasty bug/virus - > but this is getting silly now. I see your point but this isn't variant of flu and there's a lot we still don't know about it. we are quite lucky in UK as we can see what happens in other countries as we leave 'lockdown'

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And tens of thousands have died from other illness > too. Its a nasty bug, but lets be clear, the way > cause of death is recorded in the UK is where > COVID-19 may have played a part, not the sole > reason for death. Flu kills tens of thousands > every year, but we don't react with panic. > > My honest view is that we've significantly over > reacted here relative to the actual threat, which > seems to be of risk to certain groups. I don't > think the price we've paid of utterly destroying > our economy is worth it, given many of those who > died would quite possibly have passed on this year > anyway. > > I'm sorry to sound harsh but I just think the > response is too much, for too long and I think its > not worth paying. > > dbboy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > When you eventually catch CV 19, can't breath > and > > subsequently die, don't moan, because you > didn't > > follow the guidance. > > > > The guidance wasn't published for fun, theirs a > > very good reason why it's been put out. > > > > AS of TODAY, 28,000+ people in the UK have died > > from covid 19. > > > > Stay at Home, Protect the NHS and Save Lives. > It's > > really not difficult to understand. we don't yet know what impact this bug has on people long term - what if it reduced everybodes life expectancy by 5 years due to organ damage - would that be acceptable. or 10 or 20 ? wheres the line. or just everybody over 40 has a reduced life expectancy of 5 years.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Relaxation of the lockdown which hasn't even > started yet ? > Yep - sounds like the UK ! > > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 26th May being bandied around as a possible > first > > relaxation of the lockdown our lockdown doesn't compare to Spain where they only just got allowed out to exercise. even if we eventually have an inquiry i'm not sure how they would measure success or failure -the government is going to be adamant they did the best they could and i don't think we'll see much about the decisions made (in SAGE for instance)

The EU is planning on using the force on Monday https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/may-the-4th-EU-COVID19-fundraiser/

26th May being bandied around as a possible first relaxation of the lockdown

Here's one straight from the Kremlin as a space filler in the Sun and as Porton Down is real close to where Novichok was found so it must be true :) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11190739/russia-blames-britain-coronavirus-skripal-novichok/ and even worse looks likes they nicked it from the Mail and its because of Brexit https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8120505/Russia-blames-BRITAIN-coronavirus-outbreak.html "The pandemic was intentionally timed with Britain's exit from the EU to enhance its global status"

Watching Hunters but still not sure. It's fun to watch in some ways but some of the politics (operation paperclip part) worries me - but isn't it meant to be based on a true story. Put Heathers on whilst doing 30 mins on the exercise bike - WTF - was that how it was a originally written :)

binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hands up who has a garden, balcony or outside > space? > > Yep, thought so Balcony - but I hate the Sun (newspaper too) and prefer overcast and drizzle - always have - not sure if that means something - certainly wouldn't sunbathe. It actually annoys me when weather people refer to sunny weather as if we all look forward to it.

A plan is obviously being put in place across schools, work, recreation, leisure and policing. A lot of synchronicity. I notice conversations are happening between the Government and Keir Starmer to so maybe it'll be cross house. "Gavin Williamson has said he expects schools to be "opened in a phased manner" - with a decision to be made on the guidance of Sage. " "the Government is observing other nations who have begun to open schools again. " "The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) said the Treasury?s multibillion-pound coronavirus job retention scheme needed to be made more flexible to allow furloughed staff to work reduced hours." "Sunak dropped a clear hint on Monday that the scheme could be tweaked to allow for such changes. Speaking in parliament, he said ?gradual refinements? were a key part of the government plan to end lockdown measures." "Britons could be limited to two or three drinks when pubs reopen, a government adviser has suggested." "Home secretary Priti Patel has said the virus is moving into a "different phase" and with that there will be "different measures". She said restrictions and in action in place are "under review", as she addressed the home affairs committee. " "But if some areas are loosened next week, others may be tightened up,? the official said."

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There have been several fake news stories about > people ignoring social distancing in the right > wing papers of late. A photo in the Express of a > packed Brighton Beach (actually taken last summer) > and several others which have been photo shopped, > or distorted using a long lens. Makes me wonder > what the agenda is? Blame Matt Hancock ? You have to give him credit for putting his head consistently above the parapet - even if he gives me shivers.

Chick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > evilmanic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Just out of interest, what are your views on > 5G? > > And how it relates (or doesn't) to Covid-19? > > > > > It doesn't have anything to do with Covid-19. Unfortunately the more secrecy the more people will believe in conspiracy theories. We're slamming China for initial secrecy but then suddenly our government goes quiet - I can see why that makes suspicious people wonder.

We had a minute of silence for those who died doing key roles today. Well observed from what I could tell.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why issue an urgent alert, then give such vague > reasoning and uncertainty around it. > It is hard enough to make sense of the alreadu > many contradictions. Wouldn't it be better to have > more information before giving people something > else to fear. There seems to be no information on > the cases or any tests done that connect cases > with sars2cov, if so, this should be told. They have said it could be a different pathogen although unlikely. This is actually an urgent warning to Doctors that has been picked up (unsurprisingly) by the general public. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/27/what-is-the-new-illness-affecting-children-and-is-it-linked-to-coronavirus Sometimes this reminds me of AIDS in the early 1980s where no-one really knew much at all and the worry is this is the start of an upwards curve of new effects of the virus.

Reach took over the Express and have purposely kept it as it was. Extremely pro-brexit (unlike Reach's main paper The Mirror), pretty reactionary and right wing and it even predicts snowstorms all winter assuming one day it'll be right. Almost as if Desmond never left.

As SAGE is secret, TV is what we have to go on (If you want that to change allow us to see the minutes). Ominous whispers and secret meetings reminds me of AIDS in the early 80s. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-children-illness-nhs-doctor-warning-health-alert-a9485441.html To be honest if we start saying such as there may be multiple pathogens are out there then the conspiracy theories will become more attractive.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There seems to be a serial leaker of stories or a > Daily Mail journalist within our midsts..... LOL it's not me although I worked in the newspaper industry once (in IT) When the riots were on I was tempted to take a few photos when I was wandering around but I don't think it would have gone down well with the crowd that were out and about :)